GUILD j 200 CE ???

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can somebody tell me what this is? I assume it is a China “replica” ? A7D46E55-15F7-4F46-AF4A-6C18CE04E172.pngBAE8DB82-CEF8-4B05-8B25-6166A1571B90.jpeg
 

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That is really strange to even look at.

I wonder if the serial number tells you what part of China is was produced in, the day, etc.? :p

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I'm not offended by this guitar either.
While I am not familiar with the myriad of Guild models, I assume from the comments that this particular instrument is not a counterfeit version of a genuine Guild, but rather some sort of cobbled together "Frankenstein" instrument. (As an aside, I don't know if there are any Chinese counterfeits of real Guilds.)
Had this been another of the Chinese counterfeit guitars of a genuine guitar model such as the Martin D-45, Gibson Les Paul or a real Guild, then I would be very offended.
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A bit of a monster but not a Frankenstein monster, as a Frankenstein mixes and matches ORIGINAL parts made by different makers, or combines ORIGINAL parts from the same maker, but from different models.

The individual parts of this guitar (the neck at least) do not match those of any actual Guild (or Gibson?). The neck has a Guild style headstock on one end, but a Gibson shape on the other end. So the neck is neither a Guild nor a Gibson.

I don't know enough about Gibsons to know if the body exactly matches any Gibson in existence, in spite of the Gibson style pickguard and bridge.

But obviously the label inside is wrong, so my suspicion is that the body, too, is neither a Guild nor a Gibson.
 
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I wonder if the serial number tells you what part of China is was produced in, the day, etc.? :p

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If it were a good Guild fake the phony serial number would have made it impossible to date correctly and ended somewhere between where Hans Volume I ends and before Hans Volume II kicks in.

EDIT: Which would have led to Al and Ralph chiming in for 2 pages
 

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This doesn't really offend me the way it seems to offend many of you. I didn't notice the price but hell, for a campfire guitar or something, why not???

Sometimes I wish they'd get better at knocking-off Guilds; they make such convincing "antique" Ming Dynasty vases, after all.

A friend once observed about vintage Guilds that what made them special was "no compromises", every single piece of the guitar was excellent quality. By contrast, I've only held maybe four of those knockoff guitars in my hands, which is a very small sample, but I've noticed that pretty much every single piece of them is compromise. The woods, the tuners, the bridge pins, the nut, the frets, the pick-guard, the Mother-of-Broken-Coffee-Mug inlay, you name it, all of it is dollar store quality. Not unlike how the label glued inside the specimen in question looks like an inkjet print that was cut out with a pair of scissors.

They look decent enough from a distance, sure. But as Wiley noted above, 'tis neither fish nor fowl. That Chuildson is a conversation piece, for sure, but it's probably not a conversation you are going to want to find yourself having repeatedly.
 

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The individual parts of this guitar (the neck at least) do not match those of any actual Guild (or Gibson?). The neck has a Guild style headstock on one end, but a Gibson shape on the other end. So the neck is neither a Guild nor a Gibson.

I don't know enough about Gibsons to know if the body exactly matches any Gibson in existence, in spite of the Gibson style pickguard and bridge.
Re the neck, not even the "beak" at the end of the fretboard matches the correct shape of a Gibson. And as for the body, it too is not a direct match with any Gibson. If anything, the body is closer to some pacific-rim Epiphone versions of a Gibson cutaway jumbo, based of course on the J-200.
 
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