Flat Pick selection

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Sat down with my DV-52 last night and decided to do a tone comparison with various types of picks I've collected over the years. The picks I tested were a brass TekPik, a solid silver Mojo pick made from a 1954 US quarter dollar coin, a pre-ban elephant ivory pick, and a Brain pick which I believe is nylon plastic. The strings are D'Addario phosphor bronze mediums.

In terms of volume and ringing tone, the Brain pick was quite superior, followed by ivory, silver and brass.

Beginning with the ivory pick, the tone became softer and more muted, with the brass being the most muted. This effect was most notable on the wound strings. Interestingly, the sound of the pick touching the wound string, kind of a "scratchy" sound, increased in the same order, i.e., the brass pick produced the most "scratch" when attacking the strings, the Brain pick the least.

My thought is it's good to have the choice when playing different songs where I want the guitar more muted or maybe a Blues number where I want a little more pick-string noise.

Makes me wonder how my assessment of different strings might be affected by pick selection.

Just a couple more observations: I use a combination when fingerpicking - plastic thumbpick and brass fingerpicks. On the mandolin I usually use a Dunlop Jazz pick, but the brass one has been proving pretty nice for Bluegrass licks, and I also mostly use the Jazz pick on my electric, but the silver Mojo pick really sounds nice on this guitar too. The electric is strung with Ernie Ball Power Slinkys. The interaction between the silver pick and the nickel-steel wound strings makes a real cool sound :D

Next on the list, maybe some hardwood or stone picks?
 

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I’m a bare finger player on acoustic and resonator guitars, but I find this very interesting. Thanks for posting this. :D I never really thought about it before, but it makes perfect sense that the material of a pick would have an affect on the volume, tone, and sound of the strings. Makes me wonder if I’ve been missing out on something by not using picks?
 

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I remember trying metal as flatpicks ages ago, & my experience being a raspy, scratching sound that I didn't like & have avoided since. I like ProPlec 1.5 mm or Golden Gate" MOCK TURTLE" Flatpicks from a "a heavy gauge horn material".

When I try to fingerpick, I use fingers & thumb.
 

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I have tried a lot of different picks over the years.
My current favorite right now is Clayton picks.
I like them in heavier gauges like .80mm or higher.
I haven't tried the picks that cost $5.00 or more each.
I don't need to spend that much on a pick.
I would be afraid to even use one, for fear of breaking it.
 

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Graham said:
I keep migrating back to bare fingers, but when I do use a flat pick, I really like the Brain picks!
Now you've got me interested... I'll have to check those out. What I'm currently using for jazz is a heavy Grisman pick made for mandolin. It seems a little smoother and darker with little or no string noise. For most everything else I like the Wegen pics. The gypsy jazz guys use them exclusively and I tried one when I played with them and liked it... they're thick and stiff but bright, lightweight and easy to hang on to. I'm pretty fond of bare hands too for some things. I guess it really depends on the tune... different tools for different jobs.
 

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Interesting comparison - thanks for posting the results!

My flatpicking strumming technique is terrible - I tend to scrape the pick edgefirst across the strings, so if I use a metal pick it creates a cringeworthy sound. Like Graham, I normally use fingers and fingernails for strumming an acoustic. However, on my rare forays into electric guitar, I use a Dunlop plastic flatpick.

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As regards the "over $5.00" picks, I bought a batch someone offered at Mandolin Cafe awhile back, with 2 Red Bear Tortis(no better than any cheap pick to me), 3 Wegens(not bad, but $4-5.00 each?probably not worth it to me), one V-Pick(not bad, but again, not worth more than one or two bucks to me), and some ProPlecs, Dawg, & Golden Gate(former Dawg style). I didn't find any of the "over $5.00" picks to be significantly better than the less expensive ones, though many people swear by one or more of those , and "Blue Chip" picks, which are about as expensive as I've ever seen for a pick.
They were discounted as a group by someone wanting to be rid of them, I didn't ask why; but I don't consider any of the expensive ones worth keeping, if I can make back a few bucks each.
TMG said,
I would be afraid to even use one, for fear of breaking it.
the Red Bear Tortis are not only expensive, but somewhat fragile; they don't flex well, so breaking is a hazard, as is water.
 

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I did a search on tortoise shell picks, apparently even more rare than ivory or Brazilian rosewood :shock: per the CITES treaty, tortoise shell plectrums "must have been produced before 1947", or they must be licensed to be reproduced from certified pre-1944 material, i.e., a tortoise shell comb, etc. Apparently just any old turtle won't do, the desirable and illegal to harvest stuff comes from sea turtles.

Went to elderlyinstruments.com and found a veritable plethora of plectrums :D I'm gonna have to get over there and give some of them a test drive. Still want to try out those Alaska picks.

But so far, in the quest for the perfect flat pick for my acoustic guitars, its the Cat Tongue or Brain 1.0mm. Easiest to grip and loudest tone. And to your point, Mando, 50 cents each :D

By the way, I got my ivory pick from a guy here in Michigan for $8 if anyone is interested in getting one.

The solid silver picks are about $10-15 at mojopicks.com
 

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dreadnut said:
But so far, in the quest for the perfect flat pick for my acoustic guitars, its the Cat Tongue or Brain 1.0mm.
Cat tongue? Does it double as a cat cleaning device? :lol:
 

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Yeah, if you don't mind hairballs :lol:

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dreadnut said:
Yeah, if you don't mind hairballs :lol:

CatTongue.jpg
I fully expect to cough one up myself one of these days. I got up to the checker at our local grocery the other day and she looked me up and down and said "You have a cat, don't you?" :shock:
 
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