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Can someone tell me where it was made? Is there any quality issues with it? Found one for a good price. Thanks, Sorry forgot to say it was made in 2008. Seller didn't post ser. no. and I haven't talked to them yet. But I got the feeling that the ones before Fender are better.
 

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redta said:
Can someone tell me where it was made? Is there any quality issues with it? Found one for a good price. Thanks
Not without more information, specifically when it was made, can be determined if you send in the serial number from the back of the headstock. 412s have been made in several places over the years.
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The manufacturing location is usually visible on the label inside the guitar. I am not aware of any quality issues with F-412s, independent which factory made them. You need to look at the current condition of the guitar you look at however, it's like buying a used car. You need to check all parts of it to see which possible repairs are coming up in near future. That will tell you what you might need to invest.
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SFIV1967 said:
The manufacturing location is usually visible on the label inside the guitar.
Yes, I figured it was missing, thus my request for the serial number from the headstock. An intact label would make it easy. :wink:
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Brad Little said:
SFIV1967 said:
The manufacturing location is usually visible on the label inside the guitar.
Yes, I figured it was missing, thus my request for the serial number from the headstock. An intact label would make it easy. :wink:
Brad
Oh, it wouldn't be the first time somebody asked this question even with the label intact inside! It would be only tricky if it is a NH made guitar without label...There would be no S/N on the headstock... Not sure how this will be handled 30 years from now...
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steamfurnace said:
Is the NH version the first one with an abalone rosette?

No. Some of the late Westerly guitars had the abalone rosette, but with Guild's convoluted naming convention, they were called JF65-12s then. :roll:

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It would be only tricky if it is a NH made guitar without label...
No, actually the headstock serial numbers were not put on beginning at Corruna, CA, and at Tacoma, WA. Thee might be an exception, but every F412 I have owned from Corruna or Tacoma had no headstock serial number.
 

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idealassets said:
It would be only tricky if it is a NH made guitar without label...
No, actually the headstock serial numbers were not put on beginning at Corruna, CA, and at Tacoma, WA. Thee might be an exception, but every F412 I have owned from Corruna or Tacoma had no headstock serial number.

My '03 Jf30-12 does:

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idealassets said:
No, actually the headstock serial numbers were not put on beginning at Corruna, CA, and at Tacoma, WA. Thee might be an exception, but every F412 I have owned from Corruna or Tacoma had no headstock serial number.
Corruna? Is that close to Corona? :wink:

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twocorgis said:
idealassets said:
It would be only tricky if it is a NH made guitar without label...
No, actually the headstock serial numbers were not put on beginning at Corruna, CA, and at Tacoma, WA. Thee might be an exception, but every F412 I have owned from Corruna or Tacoma had no headstock serial number.

My '03 Jf30-12 does.

Twocorgis is correct. Corona made instruments still have the serial number on the back of the headstock.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl
 

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My '03 Jf30-12 does
Did Corona put serial numbers on F412's? You may be right, since I didn't own a Corona F412 for very long, my memory may be selective here since I spent most of my time defending myself to return this used guitar to Guitar Center. When it arrived shipped to me it had a very obvious old crack in top that ran along the fretboard. It was the first Guild that I ever bought.

Fortunately everything regarding Guild guitars has been really good for me, ever since that first experience.

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idealassets said:
Did Corona put serial numbers on F412's?
I'm sure Hans would have mentioned it if there was an "exception" for them. Can't see any reason there would be, though.
My '03 D40 has the stamped s/n on the headstock as well.
There is always the possibility that your f412 had the s/n obscured or removed in a manner that wasn't readily visible, but I suspect your first explanation is the most likely, that you've forgotten a detail like that in the fog of the "larger problem".. :wink:
 

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redta said:
Thanks, Sorry forgot to say it was made in 2008. Seller didn't post ser. no. and I haven't talked to them yet. But I got the feeling that the ones before Fender are better.

I believe that F412 would have been made in Tacoma. I have one from that factory, same year, & it has wonderful tone & nice action.

"Before Fender" would have been a lo-o-ong time ago . . . and according to some LTG members who worked at Westerly, QA procedures were actually improved after Guild's acquisition by Fender.
 

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redta said:
Thanks, Sorry forgot to say it was made in 2008. Seller didn't post ser. no. and I haven't talked to them yet. But I got the feeling that the ones before Fender are better.

If you believe that, and you may but it is not an opinion that is universally shared, then you should limit your search to guitars made before 1995.
 

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redta said:
But I got the feeling that the ones before Fender are better.
There is absolutely no reason why guitars before 1995 would be better than guitars after 1995...That's a myth on other forums...
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SFIV1967 said:
redta said:
But I got the feeling that the ones before Fender are better.
There is absolutely no reason why guitars before 1995 would be better than guitars after 1995...That's a myth on other forums...
Ralf

It's a good sales pitch if you are trying to sell one.
I don't buy it though.
 

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Like Geoguy, mine is a 2008 made in Tacoma, and the fit and finish are excellent.
Blindfolded, it is nearly impossible to hear the difference between
it and my friend's pre-Fender Westerly F412. That being said; mine is lighter,
and the playability of the neck profile is better, to me.
 
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