Difference Between a GAD40 & GAD140?

[Rayk]

Adorshki can you elaborate on the vintage GAD . Is that first run Gads what years ? I need info are they the guild book ? Where's my a Guild book Amazon ?

 

[adorshki]

Can you believe I bought one? : )
West

Only because I know why.
Otherwise I'd be scratchin' me head.

 

[West R Lee]

: ) I'm patiently awaiting your elaboration for Rayk. The famous history of the GAD line...and especially the "vintage GAD" line.

West

Only because I know why.
Otherwise I'd be scratchin' me head.

 

[Bill Ashton]

West, I had a GAD-30PCE which was a very nice little guitar (bought new) and my son has a...uh, "something-25," that must have been
made right at the changeover...his has Grover tuners and the Chesterfield on the headstock, but the Tru-bone bridge and nut. Can't remember
what it says on the sticker inside. Regardless, also a nice guitar and he loves it...as does my brother who has my old one.

As with Al, I almost cannot believe it either, LOL But you've done good West, ya got a good heart.:joyous:

 

[West R Lee]

Any of you in the same position would do the same, but thanks Bill. And by the way, I've had help.......I'll explain in the other thread when the time comes.

West

West, I had a GAD-30PCE which was a very nice little guitar (bought new) and my son has a...uh, "something-25," that must have been
made right at the changeover...his has Grover tuners and the Chesterfield on the headstock, but the Tru-bone bridge and nut. Can't remember
what it says on the sticker inside. Regardless, also a nice guitar and he loves it...as does my brother who has my old one.

As with Al, I almost cannot believe it either, LOL But you've don good West, ya got a good heart.:joyous:

 

[chazmo]

Can you believe I bought one? : )

West

No. I'm looking for the four horsemen, Jim! _

 

[fronobulax]

made out of cloth-covered heaviness

I am amused and entertained. I look for opportunities to use that phrase elsewhere and might even remember to give you credit. First laugh of the day.

 

[fronobulax]

Adorshki can you elaborate on the vintage GAD . Is that first run Gads what years ? I need info are they the guild book ? Where's my a Guild book Amazon ?

Volume I from Hans ends in 1977. The Beesley volume gets into the 1980's but not much farther. To the best of my knowledge no one has written a "history" of the MIC Guilds since they post-date 2000. Perhaps you might consider taking up the task? You could start by using Google to search LTG (because the built in search function sometimes is not helpful) and the dates of discussion should be close to the dates of introduction. Then you can hunt for Guild catalogs from the right time and you will have everything you need to give us the definitive answers.

 

[Neal]

Here is my recollection of the trajectory of the MIC Guilds.

Version 1: Guild Acoustic Design (GAD D40) circa 2001-10 [Chesterfield headstock (painted on?), Grover stay-tite tuners, wood binding, wood heelcap, bone nut and saddle, snowflake position markers, gloss neck]

Version 2: Guild Acoustic Design (D-140) 2011-15 [Simple Guild MOP headstock, crappy tuners (unsure of manufacturer), cream binding and heelcap, nubone nut and saddle, round position markers, satin neck]

Version 3: Westerly Collection (D-140) 2015-? [Back to the Chesterfield headstock, enclosed tuners, gloss neck, multi-layer cream binding, cream healcap, round position markers.

Neal

 

[adorshki]

Here is my recollection of the trajectory of the MIC Guilds.

Version 1: Guild Acoustic Design (GAD D40) circa 2001-10 [Chesterfield headstock (painted on?), Grover stay-tite tuners, wood binding, wood heelcap, bone nut and saddle, snowflake position markers, gloss neck]

99 out of 100 (but you did say "circa").
Not in '01 price list (would have been Westerly), not in Fender '01 Frontline catalog.
First documented appearance I have is spring '04 price list.
The one that caused me to go get a Havens D40 before Fender shipped production entirely overseas like Gibson did to Epiphone.
NO slam on MIC quality, I'm just an American-built loyalist.
Steel-string flat-top was invented here, I want mine built here.
When I said "vintage GAD's are better", I was echoing all previous comments re build details and owner observations about voice quality.

 

[txbumper57]

Here is my recollection of the trajectory of the MIC Guilds.

Version 1: Guild Acoustic Design (GAD D40) circa 2001-10 [Chesterfield headstock (painted on?), Grover stay-tite tuners, wood binding, wood heelcap, bone nut and saddle, snowflake position markers, gloss neck]

Version 2: Guild Acoustic Design (D-140) 2011-15 [Simple Guild MOP headstock, crappy tuners (unsure of manufacturer), cream binding and heelcap, nubone nut and saddle, round position markers, satin neck]

Version 3: Westerly Collection (D-140) 2015-? [Back to the Chesterfield headstock, enclosed tuners, gloss neck, multi-layer cream binding, cream healcap, round position markers.

Neal

If I'm not mistaken Neal and I could be, The Westerly Collection D140 is the same as the previous GAD F20 body style that has been renumbered. Most of the Newly made Westerly collection has a new numbering system that does not necessarily carry over the same body style as the previous GAD models. Therefore the New D140 is considered an Orchestra style (old F20 style) as opposed to the old D140 that was a Dreadnought.

 

[Neal]

The Westerly Collection 140 Series has the following:

M-140 (Concert)
OM-140 (Orchestra)
D-140 (Dreadnought)

What they have in common is mahogany back and sides, with sitka top.

So, essentially, the material from which the guitars are made designates the number, not the size or shape.

Neal

 

[jeffcoop]

Here is my recollection of the trajectory of the MIC Guilds.

Version 1: Guild Acoustic Design (GAD D40) circa 2001-10 [Chesterfield headstock (painted on?), Grover stay-tite tuners, wood binding, wood heelcap, bone nut and saddle, snowflake position markers, gloss neck]

Version 2: Guild Acoustic Design (D-140) 2011-15 [Simple Guild MOP headstock, crappy tuners (unsure of manufacturer), cream binding and heelcap, nubone nut and saddle, round position markers, satin neck]

Version 3: Westerly Collection (D-140) 2015-? [Back to the Chesterfield headstock, enclosed tuners, gloss neck, multi-layer cream binding, cream healcap, round position markers.

Neal

I think this is largely correct (and maybe entirely correct with regard to the dreadnoughts). It's worth noting, though, that there is some variation from model to model. The GAD-F20, for example, had the wood binding, bone nut and saddle, gloss neck, and Grover tuners, but lacked the Chesterfield logo on the headstock and had dot markers, not snowflakes.

 

[txbumper57]

That's right, They certainly made very understanding and confusing all at the same time. LOL

 

[merlin6666]

And for rosewood they have

OM-150 (new?)
D-150
F-150
F-1512

http://guildguitars.com/guitars/acoustic-guitars/westerly-collection/
http://guildguitars.com/guitars/acoustic-guitars/gad-series/

So if you wanted a Mahogany Jumbo (F-size) you'd have to get a 1st or 2nd generation GAD ...

 

[Rogerthat]

The GAD series and the westerly series are two different series according to the Guild website you can still purchase either series.
BROWSE BY SERIES
Westerly Collection
Guild Acoustic Design (GAD)
Traditional Series
Orpheum Series
Artist Signature Models

The F140 (GAD) series come with a hard case
The OM 140 (WC) comes with a soft case

 

[chazmo]

What's in a name, Roger ?

 

[fronobulax]

The GAD series and the westerly series are two different series according to the Guild website you can still purchase either series.

Point noted. I think there is a general presumption that the GAD series will be discontinued, once the current inventory is sold or remaindered, and the Westerly Collection will continue as the only MIC instruments in the Guild line, but that is a presumption I, at least, have been making.

 

[Rayk]

I think Frono is right . Shame to waste inventory but it would not hurt me if they discounted the price some more on the Gads

 

[adorshki]

I think Frono is right . Shame to waste inventory but it would not hurt me if they discounted the price some more on the Gads ����

I think they'll leave that to the retailers by discounting wholesale cost. In the meantime it helps the retailers to be able to demonstrate how much discount they're offering from "list" as shown by Cordoba.
I agree with Frono that I think the GAD line will go away, just doesn't make sense to carry 2 MIC lines, but in the meantime showing 'em on the website helps accelerate the inventory reduction.