Are NS green Starfires hog or maple?

[lungimsam]

Pics look like maple, but description on CMG website says hog.

 

[JohnW63]

I would then guess mahogany. I suspect it is less costly than maple. Still, it may all be a laminate anyway, so the cost diff may be minimal.

However, the Green versions wouldn't have different wood than the rest.

 

[hieronymous]

I saw one at one of my local music stores (Bananas at Large in San Rafael) but it disappeared pretty quick. (If you're talking about the new ones - I forget what NS stands for)

 

[krysh]

… (If you're talking about the new ones - I forget what NS stands for)

Newark Street series

 

[SFIV1967]

Are NS green Starfires hog or maple?​

Pics look like maple, but description on CMG website says hog.

I'd say error on the webpage and copy and paste error on most other sites, all the pictures look clearly maple to me.
Ralf

 

[lungimsam]

Yeah, I don’t see any of the mahogany looking grain like they usually have that’s why I thought it’s maple. You can see in the pic it is clearly not hog, both thru the translucent finish and also inside the body:

 

[twocorgis]

I think they're maple, and if the ones I've seen are representative of the line as a whole, they didn't get the color right. It's closer to kelly green than emerald green. My '68 is a maple body and much darker, but some of that is due to the yellowing of the nitrocellulose lacquer.

 

[hieronymous]

Newark Street series

I guess I should have said "I forget what NS means" - are they new? Is there somewhere on here where the various designations are explained? (Sorry to be a pain!)

 

[Minnesota Flats]

I would then guess mahogany. I suspect it is less costly than maple. Still, it may all be a laminate anyway, so the cost diff may be minimal.

However, the Green versions wouldn't have different wood than the rest.

Agreed: I've never owned or played a Guild bass from the 60s, but every NS, Westerly or DeArmond SF I've ever seen has had a plywood body. Makes sense, since the semi-hollow design evolved to control unwanted feedback and plywood is less resonant than solid wood. I believe the Gibson ES-175 guitar (also a plywood, though fully-hollow body) came about in an intentional attempt to reduce high-volume feedback (in addition to reducing production cost). Prior Gibson "jazz boxes" such as the L5 had solid tops and backs with the arch carved into them rather than the hydraulically or vacuum-pressed contouring as with the plywood ES-175.

 

[chazmo]

I saw one at one of my local music stores (Bananas at Large in San Rafael) but it disappeared pretty quick. (If you're talking about the new ones - I forget what NS stands for)

Hey, hieronymous! Been a while. Welcome back!

 

[chazmo]

I guess I should have said "I forget what NS means" - are they new? Is there somewhere on here where the various designations are explained? (Sorry to be a pain!)

The Newark Street series was introduced as Asian-made (Korea, at the time) electrics made not as reissues but as inspired by their US-built versions... CMG continues to produce NS guitars (from other Asian places as well). I think this all started in 2013, hieronymous, as part of Fender's celebration of Guild's 60th anniversary. Grot and some others sent them their originals to use a basis for making the new ones.

 

[7GuildsandanSG]

Website says arched maple top and back so that would be laminated. Sides are maple as well.

Starfire IV ST Emerald Green | Guild Guitars

This marks the welcome return of a highly popular semi-hollow Guild classic, with a graceful double-cutaway thinline body and incomparable tone and feel.

guildguitars.com

 

[7GuildsandanSG]

The cherry red NS SF IV I have is all mahogany.

 

[fronobulax]

Website says arched maple top and back so that would be laminated. Sides are maple as well.

Starfire IV ST Emerald Green | Guild Guitars

This marks the welcome return of a highly popular semi-hollow Guild classic, with a graceful double-cutaway thinline body and incomparable tone and feel.

guildguitars.com

The BASS is at https://guildguitars.com/g/starfire-bass-ii-in-emerald-green/ and the bass description says mahogany several times. It kind of looks like maple to me also but maybe Guild figured if they repeat the mistake, like in jazz, it would become right.

Question makes sense since there were vintage green Starfire basses in both mahogany and maple.

 

[chazmo]

close enough for jazz

 

[Boneman]

Good question as I read that too, and to me it seemed the flamed maple version uses an all maple neck and the colored versions have a hog neck. Thus the difference in MSRP. But maybe the site is wrong?

 

[lungimsam]

darn!
I had what appeared to be a trade going for a green one but haven't heard back from the guy so maybe he lost interest.
Or maybe he is thinking it over.

 

[hieronymous]

darn!
I had what appeared to be a trade going for a green one but haven't heard back from the guy so maybe he lost interest.
Or maybe he is thinking it over.

Hopefully he has just been busy - hope the trade works out!

 

[lungimsam]

I’ll let y’all know if it does - maple or no!
Maybe tomorrow I will try to tantalize him with another trade!

 

[lungimsam]

Update:
Mine for cash. I’m going there Saturday to pick it up.
Can’t wait!! Only a little over an hour away!!
Will post pics and looks like it is maple, which will be nice since I already have a mahogany Starfire.