Anyone own a JF212XL 12 string?

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I don't, but no doubt members will be along who do. In the meantime, welcome to LTG!
 

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Welcome to LTG! Very nice 12er you have there! The closest guitar I have to the F-212XL is an F-212C.
 

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HI Sparks, don't mean to sound snarky, but pretty sure if you double-check the label it will say only "F212XL" because the "XL" indicated the 17" body size used for the maple-bodied F412 and rosewood bodied F512.

Although "JF" does ID a 17" jumbo body, it was never used in conjunction the 212 call-out, although it was used when the JF30-12 was introduced and when the F412/F512 were renamed JF65/JF55-12

So to ID a 'hog-bodied 17" jumbo 12 string before the "JF" model prefix was introduced in '87, they added "XL" to the F212 (16" jumbo) model name since it was already associated with a 'hog bodied 12-er.

Lemme know if that's not confusing enough.
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HI Sparks, don't mean to sound snarky, but pretty sure if you double-check the label it will say only "F212XL" because the "XL" indicated the 17" body size used for the maple-bodied F412 and rosewood bodied F512.

Although "JF" does ID a 17" jumbo body, it was never used in conjunction the 212 call-out, although it was used when the JF30-12 was introduced and when the F412/F512 were renamed JF65/JF55-12

So to ID a 'hog-bodied 17" jumbo 12 string before the "JF" model prefix was introduced in '87, they added "XL" to the F212 (16" jumbo) model name since it was already associated with a 'hog bodied 12-er.

Lemme know if that's not confusing enough.
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Looks like you are right! Thanks for the feedback!
 

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Just so you know, sparks, starting in 2010, New Hartford made a "Standard series" version of the F-212XL, which is what I have. It's a very nice guitar and I love its plain appointments. Just wanted you to be aware of the difference. As you might know, these Standard series guitars were finished differently with the neck off and glued together after finishing. There's also a different base skim coat that was used as pore filler than was used on the Traditional series models. Anyway, if you run across one of these, that's what you're getting. A plainer, janer, version of the F-212XL. The F-212XL moniker has always applied to a solid wood, mahogany back/sides 17" (jumbo) model. Not to be confused with the F-212 (or the GAD version of same).

I have played older F-212XLs from Westerly and have found some of them to be a bit more resonant than my New Hartford model. But, "Connie" is staying with me until I'm plowed under.

Also, AFAIK, there is no "J" prefix on the F-212XL model name, but YES it's always been a jumbo.
 

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Sounds good Chasmo! Mine is definitely a solid wood, mahogany back/sides 17" (jumbo) model. When I ordered it, it was supposed to have a plain fingerboard with no inlay position markers, but when I go it it had them! Go figure! Of the three I own, it is my favorite of the two acoustics and like you I will never part with it!
 

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It is big!!! I have keep it tuned to pitch since i got it in 1980 with extra light gauge strings. It still booms and I have never had a problem with the neck, neck/body joint or bridge! That's a lot of gigs!
 

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It is big!!! I have keep it tuned to pitch since i got it in 1980 with extra light gauge strings. It still booms and I have never had a problem with the neck, neck/body joint or bridge! That's a lot of gigs!

i liked it, but blew out my left wrist for the 2nd time and needed some clean up surgery, which took a few months to return from, and I just couldn't fret 12 strings. So i bring it down to the same place i bought and traded it up even for a Gibson H-bird in decent shape. I was happy as a clam. I gave that H-bird to a friend a couple years later who had no acoustic.

wrist great these days but i since realized 12 strings have 6 too many strings on them. lol
 

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i liked it, but blew out my left wrist for the 2nd time and needed some clean up surgery, which took a few months to return from, and I just couldn't fret 12 strings. So i bring it down to the same place i bought and traded it up even for a Gibson H-bird in decent shape. I was happy as a clam. I gave that H-bird to a friend a couple years later who had no acoustic.

wrist great these days but i since realized 12 strings have 6 too many strings on them. lol
Sorry about your wrist but glad it's better! I am 65 and dreading the day my age starts to hinder my playing!
 
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