About the neck of the contemporary series..

[Joowon Jeong]

This is my first post here..

I recently got a CV-2 (front spruce, flamed maple rest) knowing there are some neck issues. I know that the neck is connected with a bolt-on system to the body.
Is there anyone who tried to fix or reset the neck alone? Is it even able to do that?

 

[Rambozo96]

I thought it had a bolt on neck. I don’t know what a reset on it would entail.

 

[Christopher Cozad]

Welcome to the Forum. I have never removed the neck on a CV-2. Hopefully someone here can offer you more information.

 

[davismanLV]

The Contemporary Series out of Tacoma, WA had the (Patent Pending applied and abandoned) graphite neck block system with a graphite spider under the soundboard. It should be as easy as any bolt on neck, I'd imagine but I've not done it. Some of the necks of the Contemporary Series had trouble with green wood and warping (search for "Trainwreck Neck" here) and there were instances of this but a lot of people have had no trouble with theirs and they're rather popular. I think RayK here has had his off. He can be difficult to understand when he doesn't proofread his posts, and when his fingers go too fast, but he might be able to advise you. Sorry I can't be more help.

Oh and p.s. - welcome to LTG!!

 

[JohnW63]

Both RayK and I have removed our Contemporary series necks and messed about with them. There is no reason to believe any given of these guitars has a problem. It's just than enough have that they got a reputation. In fact, most people wouldn't even notice any issue on mine, unless they play above the 12 fret. Just a very slight hump as it comes over the body. Rayk has a little more hump on his neck than I do and he very carefully shaved the top of his guitar where the neck rests so it would sit just a little lower and not have a hump there. These are not major issues, really. It is a bold on neck. It's three or four bolts. I'm trying to picture them in my mind. A little imagination and the ability to use ab allen wrench and most things can be taken care of. Of course I'm basing my view on two talked about here.

 

[Joowon Jeong]

I thought it had a bolt on neck. I don’t know what a reset on it would entail.

Thanks!

 

[Joowon Jeong]

Welcome to the Forum. I have never removed the neck on a CV-2. Hopefully someone here can offer you more information.

Thanks!

 

[Joowon Jeong]

The Contemporary Series out of Tacoma, WA had the (Patent Pending applied and abandoned) graphite neck block system with a graphite spider under the soundboard. It should be as easy as any bolt on neck, I'd imagine but I've not done it. Some of the necks of the Contemporary Series had trouble with green wood and warping (search for "Trainwreck Neck" here) and there were instances of this but a lot of people have had no trouble with theirs and they're rather popular. I think RayK here has had his off. He can be difficult to understand when he doesn't proofread his posts, and when his fingers go too fast, but he might be able to advise you. Sorry I can't be more help.

Oh and p.s. - welcome to LTG!!

Thanks!

 

[Joowon Jeong]

Both RayK and I have removed our Contemporary series necks and messed about with them. There is no reason to believe any given of these guitars has a problem. It's just than enough have that they got a reputation. In fact, most people wouldn't even notice any issue on mine, unless they play above the 12 fret. Just a very slight hump as it comes over the body. Rayk has a little more hump on his neck than I do and he very carefully shaved the top of his guitar where the neck rests so it would sit just a little lower and not have a hump there. These are not major issues, really. It is a bold on neck. It's three or four bolts. I'm trying to picture them in my mind. A little imagination and the ability to use ab allen wrench and most things can be taken care of. Of course I'm basing my view on two talked about here.

Can you tell me how high your action is and what you did after you got the neck off the guitar?

 

[SFIV1967]

That's how the neck looks when off the guitar:

And from inside you see the 4 mounting screws with attached neck:

Ralf

 

[Joowon Jeong]

That's how the neck looks when off the guitar:

Something here was broken, but it gives you an idea:

And from inside you see the 4 mounting screws:

Ralf

Thanks! The pictures help me a lot to understand the structure! Then, is there glue applied anywhere? If I want my neck to become parallel with the body, what should I do?

 

[stormin1155]

Thanks! The pictures help me a lot to understand the structure! Then, is there glue applied anywhere? If I want my neck to become parallel with the body, what should I do?

Is you purpose to correct the neck angle to give lower string action? You would have to shave a very thin V-shaped slice from the heel and add a similar shim under the fingerboard overhang. Here's a link that better explains the process and provide the formula on how much material to remove. Neck Reset Formula (liutaiomottola.com)

No glue. You want to be pretty confident in your woodworking skills before attempting this task. This is not a job for amateurs.

 

[SFIV1967]

...is there glue applied anywhere? If I want my neck to become parallel with the body, what should I do?

No, there should be no glue applied.
To reset a neck it is best to study YouTube videos about neck resets or ask a luthier who knows the procedure. I don't know what exactly needs to be done on this type of construction, so I cannot give you an answer. Maybe others know.

But I attach you a few more pictures of a removed neck where everything is fine and nothing is broken:

And you see where this luthier took material away on the heel:

Source of the 3 pictures: https://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/guild-2005-cv-1-neck-reset

Ralf

 

[chazmo]

Good luck, Joowon, and welcome aboard.

 

[Joowon Jeong]

No, there should be no glue applied.
To reset a neck it is best to study YouTube videos about neck resets or ask a luthier who knows the procedure. I don't know what exactly needs to be done on this type of construction, so I cannot give you an answer. Maybe others know.

But I attach you a few more pictures of a removed neck where everything is fine and nothing is broken:

Here you also see where this luthier took material away on the heel:

Source of the 3 pictures: https://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/guild-2005-cv-1-neck-reset

Ralf

Thank you soooooo much for the pictures and your advise.

 

[Joowon Jeong]

Good luck, Joowon, and welcome aboard.

Thanks!

 

[JohnW63]

Joowon,

The neck angle and string height on my is just fine. In fact, I could raise the saddle a mm or so and remove the low E buzz, beyond the 12th fret and not ever touch the neck again. Are you sure yours needs a neck reset at all? Where does a nice straight edge hit the bridge?

 

[Rayk]

Both RayK and I have removed our Contemporary series necks and messed about with them. There is no reason to believe any given of these guitars has a problem. It's just than enough have that they got a reputation. In fact, most people wouldn't even notice any issue on mine, unless they play above the 12 fret. Just a very slight hump as it comes over the body. Rayk has a little more hump on his neck than I do and he very carefully shaved the top of his guitar where the neck rests so it would sit just a little lower and not have a hump there. These are not major issues, really. It is a bold on neck. It's three or four bolts. I'm trying to picture them in my mind. A little imagination and the ability to use ab allen wrench and most things can be taken care of. Of course I'm basing my view on two talked about here.

Well said sir !
Welcome aboard Joowon . I have contemporary OM models most recent is the CV-2 which will need work . I have a unorthodox way of fixing things . A outside the box approach so to say .

I’ve reset 2 necks so far and the 3rd will be the CV-2 .

I help any way I can if needed . Like Tom said My fingers can’t keep up with the words in my head so a few words get left out . It’s a gift !

 

[JohnW63]

I don't know that I have seen one of these in need of a true " neck reset " as we have gotten used to the term. Where the tension of the strings has pulled the neck so long that the neck shifts in it's mounting pocket in the body and creative work work is need to align it back were it needs to be. Often with the top of the guitar getting cracks from the fretboard pushing down on it. Since the neck has a plastic brace under the top, I just don't think the neck is free to move that much.

 

[chazmo]

^ It shouldn't technically need a reset, John, but the joinery just didn't work properly on some of the units that were shelved before being (unfortunately) released the wild. Anyway, it's a dice game. Just be forewarned... Especially if the guitar went through MIRC because that's almost a surefire sign that Tacoma had already shelved it before Fender dished the bodies and necks off. Sigh. One of the only true black marks against Guild quality over the years.