99J advice

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There's a 99J in my neighbourhood, although it's not mega cheap. I'm actually in the market for an amp, but was looking at a nice Bassman head.

I heard the 99J is a dark amp, do others agree?

Will it overdrive if cranked?

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I’d have to describe it as warm and mellow; buttery smooth. Of course I’ve used mine exclusively for jazz with an archtop, so I’ve never pushed it to overdrive or experimented with solidbodies (I have other amps for that.)
 

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Guild amps can and do sound wonderful, but if you are not really an "amp guy" I would suggest buying the Fender, out of those 2 options. especially if the 99J is "not mega cheap"
good luck!
 

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Guild amps can and do sound wonderful, but if you are not really an "amp guy" I would suggest buying the Fender, out of those 2 options. especially if the 99J is "not mega cheap"
good luck!
what does it mean to be an amp guy? I mean I have currently three, but I'm not an obsessive collector. As Guild fan I thought it would be nice to have a Guild and I've definitely never seen another in the UK, but it's enough money that something else would have to go.
 

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what does it mean to be an amp guy?

I'm not one but if I used the term I would be talking about someone who know the technology well and believed certain aspects of the technology gave them sounds they desired. For example, almost everyone has a sense that tube (valve? :) ) and solid state amps sound different. An amp guy knows/cares about the differences in tube amps based upon which tubes they are using. An amp guy is going to prefer "the real thing" over signal processing that emulates a particular amp.
 

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Circuit-wise, these amps lack a gain stage compared to the equivalent Fender amps of the time (think tweed Fender Pro) so they will stay cleaner up the dial. Depending on the vintage, the bypass caps on the preamp cathode resistors can also be larger in value than Fenders, because they were also using the amp with accordions as well as guitars. As far as I'm aware, Leo never pushed for Fender accordions...
 

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what does it mean to be an amp guy?
i guess i meant a few different things by that remark. let me try a different answer. if u want something from the 50s-60s that says "Guild" on it in Europe, and can be made to sound fantastic, this could be a good opportunity. But Guild was not so consistent with their builds/designs and techs are more familliar with Fenders and generally Fenders run quieter in my experience, and they are just more consistent. Any vintage amp will eventually need parts replaced (more than less) and as time goes on it is less and less original. to me they never sound quite the same once refurbished (still amazing but not like OG).

I parted ways with my 1957 66-J and 1962 98-RT and mostly use my 2010 Fender Blues Jr Tweed and 1975 Fender Vibrochamp. have a few others (including still the Guild Maverick- hence Mavuser), but those 2 cover 90 something percent of my territory. if im in a studio w big rigs ill go for the Fender 4x10 combo if i can, super reverb, Blues Deville, Concert, bassman etc. been forever since ive done that though
 

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Circuit-wise, these amps lack a gain stage compared to the equivalent Fender amps of the time (think tweed Fender Pro) so they will stay cleaner up the dial. Depending on the vintage, the bypass caps on the preamp cathode resistors can also be larger in value than Fenders, because they were also using the amp with accordions as well as guitars. As far as I'm aware, Leo never pushed for Fender accordions...
if you read this and instantly process all of the information without any critical thinking, you may be an amp guy (Thanks, Default!)
 

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I am not an amp guy. Just realized...pretty quickly...
 

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I'm not one but if I used the term I would be talking about someone who know the technology well and believed certain aspects of the technology gave them sounds they desired. For example, almost everyone has a sense that tube (valve? :) ) and solid state amps sound different. An amp guy knows/cares about the differences in tube amps based upon which tubes they are using. An amp guy is going to prefer "the real thing" over signal processing that emulates a particular amp.
in that case I am an amp guy :)
 

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all very useful, thanks. I have an amazing big clean amp, so mainly looking for a dirty one to run into my new attenuator
 

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I'm an amp guy. I seek out amps with weird circuits or stories behind them, am perfectly happy with a one trick pony because I have a lot of ponies, and keep an amp tech busy. I have more money in spare NOS tubes than any of my friends have in amps.

I don't recommend it as a lifestyle, the storage and repair burden is brutal, and at some point it becomes hard to use them all.

For a Guild like that, since I'm not a totally clean player, I would happily use a rangemaster or fuzz to make it give up the goods (I'm a pedal guy too). I'm not into attenuators much because they reduce speaker coloration/distortion which is a part of my preferred sound recipe.
 

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From my experience with mine, until I traded it to Steve, it was like my 66-J just more of it. 5U4 rectifier, pair of 6L6 (no suffix) power tubes. Speaker will distort before amplifier does...if amp distorts, something wrong with it! I would consider the 15" speaker kind of delicate. It is not a Fender tweed Pro...as Steve noted, it is lacking the gain stage a Fender has to make up for loss in the tone circuit...but the tone controls are Baxendall style, so are real cut/boost...if I understand them correctly.
 

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it is lacking the gain stage a Fender has to make up for loss in the tone circuit...but the tone controls are Baxendall style, so are real cut/boost...if I understand them correctly.
Baxandall tone circuits have a lot less loss than a Fender-type T-M-B circuit, so it may not be necessary to have that 'make up gain' stage.
 
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