I Paid $199 For An Aurora Model Kit

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As a kid, I practically kept the Aurora model kit company in business, building many of their offerings. I have been looking for four figurine kits that I built way back then; the Crusader, the Viking, and both Gladiator models.

Wednesday, I found the Crusader kit unmade on Ebay, listed at $299 or best offer. I immediately offered $199 and it was almost immediately accepted, which made me think I should have offered $149. Oh well, too late.

I can't believe I finally found this extremely rare kit, Now, should I build it, or just let it sit in the box and increase in value? I haven't built a model in years, and would have to get myself set up again with all the stuff I'd need; an airbrush, glue, paints, tools, etc. I have been buying kits I like all along though, in preparation for the day I start building again.

Then, if I build the models, where would I store them where my grandson or the cats can't get to them? Space is at a premium around here.

Anybody else a model builder?
 

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As a kid, I practically kept the Aurora model kit company in business, building many of their offerings. I have been looking for four figurine kits that I built way back then; the Crusader, the Viking, and both Gladiator models.

Wednesday, I found the Crusader kit unmade on Ebay, listed at $299 or best offer. I immediately offered $199 and it was almost immediately accepted, which made me think I should have offered $149. Oh well, too late.

I can't believe I finally found this extremely rare kit, Now, should I build it, or just let it sit in the box and increase in value? I haven't built a model in years, and would have to get myself set up again with all the stuff I'd need; an airbrush, glue, paints, tools, etc. I have been buying kits I like all along though, in preparation for the day I start building again.

Then, if I build the models, where would I store them where my grandson or the cats can't get to them? Space is at a premium around here.

Anybody else a model builder?
A little over 60 years ago I spent a lot of my allowance on Aurora models--especially WWI airplanes. I had them on display in my room, my dad complained I had too much stuff in there, so I moved the majority to a shelf underneath our shuffleboard table on the back porch. Then when I was a junior in high school
I was going to get them out to show a friend and found my father had thrown a bunch of heavy boxes of clock weights and old telephone parts on top of my models, crushing most of them. When I complained of course it was my fault. Not long after that I came home from school to find my comic book collection was gone--hundreds I'd been collecting from the mid-fifties on--even some Captain Marvel and Superman comics from the 1940s. Thanks for stirring up
these memories!
 

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As a kid, I practically kept the Aurora model kit company in business, building many of their offerings. I have been looking for four figurine kits that I built way back then; the Crusader, the Viking, and both Gladiator models.

Wednesday, I found the Crusader kit unmade on Ebay, listed at $299 or best offer. I immediately offered $199 and it was almost immediately accepted, which made me think I should have offered $149. Oh well, too late.

I can't believe I finally found this extremely rare kit, Now, should I build it, or just let it sit in the box and increase in value? I haven't built a model in years, and would have to get myself set up again with all the stuff I'd need; an airbrush, glue, paints, tools, etc. I have been buying kits I like all along though, in preparation for the day I start building again.

Then, if I build the models, where would I store them where my grandson or the cats can't get to them? Space is at a premium around here.

Anybody else a model builder?
Yep. Got probably about 30 unbuilt car models I bought from the late '70's to early '90's in the closet, but as a kid it was mostly aerospace and military stuff. Also had the Spiderman, Captain America, and Hulk models from the late '60's which I built, and pretty darn well if I say so myself.

I'd learned the trick of painting small stuff on the tree and test-fitting pieces and trimming where needed before applying glue. Even came up with the idea of using a fine point ball pen to trace the outlines of the web pattern on Spiderman's costume, the lines were ever so slightly engraved in the mold, but didn't show up well, needed some definition.

Still have a 3/4 finished Ferrari 250 GTO kit in the box, all parts painted, and detail painted chassis and interior. funny thing was, when it came time to mount the body, I didn't want to hide all that detail under the skin. So I never did. 😃

So yeah, I think I empathize, especially with figures. I wouldn't build it, especially if you've got the worry about safe display/storage.

I'd actually look for another one to build (seriously). Or at least save this one until you know it'll be "worth" building.
 
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I had a large box of comic books, including a lot of original Marvel books - Spiderman #1, Fantastic 4, etc... Came home from college one summer and mom had thrown them all out...
 

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Similar to when my mother and I stopped near the end of a walk through the Hall of Fame to a display of old baseball cards. She stared at the case and began pointing while saying, 'I had that one and that one and that one...' Thought my hard working dad was gonna' pass out.
 

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I had this long list of things that I thought I would do when I had time. I've been retired for a few years now and the list isn't much shorter because I actually did something and crossed it off. My advice would be to carefully consider how likely you actually would be to resurrect your model building at some point in the future. If you think you would then perhaps now is the time to take small steps in that direction - reassembling tools, workspaces, etc.

Having struggled with a move and some downsizing I have come to the realization that there are things that are important to me but of little value to someone else. If you bought this as an investment with an intent to sell in the future then the answer is obvious. But if you want to build it, then do so.

In Ye Olden Days when Beanie Babies were a craze and commanding outrageous amounts of money as collectables it always made me sad when I saw one given as a gift to a child and then the parent discouraged playing with it because doing so would decrease the value.

So which will make you happier - building the model or monitoring the market and pocketing cash when you sell at a profit? That, IMO, is your answer.
 

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Thanks for the responses. Many of us Boomers built models back then. I was obsessive about it. I averaged one a week.

In addition to all the stuff I'd need to start again, I would probably have to do a lot of research on how to assemble and finish the kits so they look professional. I'm sure I could find all that information online or in any of the magazines on modeling out there. Modeling has advanced since I was fourteen and brush painting everything. The paints available now are much more realistic than the old Testors paint we used. I think I'd probably be better at it now that I'm older. Maybe!

I get a weekly email from a guy who sells old model kits and I can't believe the prices of certain kits; well into the hundreds and even thousands of dollars. Occasionally, I come across unmade kits at estate sales. I should start buying them all up.
 

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I had this long list of things that I thought I would do when I had time. I've been retired for a few years now and the list isn't much shorter because I actually did something and crossed it off. My advice would be to carefully consider how likely you actually would be to resurrect your model building at some point in the future. If you think you would then perhaps now is the time to take small steps in that direction - reassembling tools, workspaces, etc.

Having struggled with a move and some downsizing I have come to the realization that there are things that are important to me but of little value to someone else. If you bought this as an investment with an intent to sell in the future then the answer is obvious. But if you want to build it, then do so.

In Ye Olden Days when Beanie Babies were a craze and commanding outrageous amounts of money as collectables it always made me sad when I saw one given as a gift to a child and then the parent discouraged playing with it because doing so would decrease the value.

So which will make you happier - building the model or monitoring the market and pocketing cash when you sell at a profit? That, IMO, is your answer.

This is a great post, frono! I've never been a fan of buying a child a toy and not letting them play with it. If you think a toy is an investment, keep it hidden for yourself!

Bob, assuming you are not keeping it for your retirement fund, I would build it. As I get older, I realize that you should do things that give you joy. What else have you spent $200 on? The heating bill or something? lf you are excited to have some fun and build it, do it!

Too late for this marketing campaign, but every model I had as a kid was "Made to be Built"!

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I used to build models as a kid and stopped when guitars and girls took over my attention. When I was about 27 or so, I told my future wife that I wanted a 300ZX for my birthday, so she bought me the model kit for one. I had an absolute blast building it and went whole-hog on the details. It might even still be in the house somewhere, though I can't think of where...

I haven't built one since then, but I love to build things and could easily see myself paying too much for a kit I really wanted.
 

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I built some as a kid and really enjoyed myself, being a real car enthusiast. But my older brother (by 7 years) took it to a whole new level. He was/is insane about details and his workspace. He and his wife built their "forever" dream home in Inspirada south of Las Vegas. Totally customized to their specific details. Now that he's retired, he's back to building models, mostly older WWI and WWII airplane models. Their house has a 3 car garage with one side being tandem spots. He built his "studio" in there with custom cabinets and work surfaces. Their garage is spotless!! You could eat off their floors!! He now spends his time in his space away from his wife, building and painting and in his happy little world. I'm not nearly so organized or hysterical about my work space, but it works for him. I think he's created space to display them out there as well. I doubt Dana would allow them in the house!! I'll take a look next time I'm out there.

There's two different ways to go about this. If you're investing money to make money, that's a thing and it's fine. However, if the actual building of the models is what brings joy and peace, then the bit of money you make by leaving them unmolested is pointless. So only YOU will know which way to go with this. My buddy Danny here in Vegas makes model cars and trucks all the time. But he also has trouble with space and finding a place to put the finished projects and with a 3 year old girl and two older boys, space is at a premium. You'll figure something out!!

And since we're talking about models, I have to include this favorite clip of Jennifer Coolidge from Christopher Guest's A Mighty Wind. She's so amazing and makes me laugh hysterically!!!

 

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I stopped into a Hobby Lobby store today and looked at the tools and things I would need to start modeling again. Surprisingly, they're not too expensive. I beginner's airbrush is $20 and all the forceps, pliers, clippers, sanding tools and knives were reasonably priced too. It would probably be less than $100 to get prepped to start building again.

But first, I have to get storage space together and a workspace. I have an ancient collapsible card table I got from my parents that will work for starters.

I think I'll do it; build the Crusader kit. I have hunted for it for years. Tonight, I might buy a 1/48th Pfalz D-XII WWI plane model I saw online. That one is only $28.
 

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In addition to all the stuff I'd need to start again, I would probably have to do a lot of research on how to assemble and finish the kits so they look professional. I'm sure I could find all that information online or in any of the magazines on modeling out there.
A-yup. Here's one for example with one of the finest pieces I've ever seen:
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Modeling has advanced since I was fourteen and brush painting everything.
The paints available now are much more realistic than the old Testors paint we used. I think I'd probably be better at it now that I'm older. Maybe!
The real secret is a good airbrush which yields the smoothest and thinnest coats works the best for flesh tones too.. Then a steady hand with a detail brush if needed.
And yeah, I built my best stuff when I was in my '20's, and was a lot more patient.
I stopped into a Hobby Lobby store today and looked at the tools and things I would need to start modeling again. Surprisingly, they're not too expensive. I beginner's airbrush is $20 and all the forceps, pliers, clippers, sanding tools and knives were reasonably priced too. It would probably be less than $100 to get prepped to start building again.
Suspect "Beginner's airbrush" wouldn't be worth $20.00, do a little research to learn bout what makes a good one, primarily a very fine consistent droplet size at any aperture opening, IIRC. And a small clamp and/or vise to hold stuff up off the table when needed.
But first, I have to get storage space together and a workspace. I have an ancient collapsible card table I got from my parents that will work for starters.
Yep, that's why I stopped, no place to dedicate to building, where one could just walk away and return as desired without having to pack stuff up.
I think I'll do it; build the Crusader kit. I have hunted for it for years. Tonight, I might buy a 1/48th Pfalz D-XII WWI plane model I saw online. That one is only $28.
I get that. You just reminded me, though, I'd a least buy a cheap "practice kit" or 2 especially to familiarize yourself with the airbrush and modern glue set-up times for example, and refresh X-Acto trimming skills.. You'll be glad you did. ;)
 
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Bob, I love the fact you will be building this on your parent's old card table! A total trip back in time!

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AMT made some fine models. Didn't build many but about 1963 I built à 1940 Ford Coupe painted Candy Apple Red. Everytime I see my friends real 1939 Ford Coupe, I think about buying one.
 

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A-yup. Here's one for example with one of the finest pieces I've ever seen:
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The real secret is a good airbrush which yields the smoothest and thinnest coats works the best for flesh tones too.. Then a steady hand with a detail brush if needed.
And yeah, I built my best stuff when I was in my '20's, and was a lot more patient.

Suspect "Beginner's airbrush" wouldn't be worth $20.00, do a little research to learn bout what makes a good one, primarily a very fine consistent droplet size an any aperture opening, IIRC. And a small clamp and/or vise to hold stuff up off the table when needed.
Yep, that's why I stopped, no place to dedicate to building, where one could just walk away and return as desired without having to pack stuff up.

I get that. You just reminded me, though, I'd a least buy a cheap "practice kit" or 2 especially to familiarize yourself with the airbrush and modern glue set-up times for example, and refresh X-Acto trimming skills.. You'll be glad you did. ;)

The detail on that engine is great. I was never that meticulous when I was making kits decades ago.
 

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The detail on that engine is great. I was never that meticulous when I was making kits decades ago.
Did you see the whole article? He talks about some tricks he used building it.

My GTO's close to the detail of that engine bay but not quite... but as I mentioned I took so much pride in the chassis (even has tiny little suspension springs) that I didn't want to cover it up, just like this pic:
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I've got it painted in correct colors, engine's mounted of course.

But this guy's interior detailing is incredible:

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I could paint the seats like that and even add nice crisp-edged accent color in the seat inserts, but the textured carpet? And the gauges? And seatbelts? :eek:

Is it live or is it Memorex?:

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🙃

That oughta getcha hotted up. :D
 

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That's amazing. I was never that detailed when I made models as a kid.

I watched about 8 how-to videos tonight on You Tube on airbrushing basics, compressors, airbrushing techniques, etc. I realized that the airbrush itself, the accessories and a compressor is going to set me back hundreds of dollars. My music room is simply not set up for airbrushing, and I don't want to expose myself and family to the noise in the house, so I'm going to look at alternatives. I could conceivably airbrush outside in the shed in warmer weather, or in the backyard. I also learned that the Iwata airbrush is a good one to start with.

I decided to build one of my other stashed kits first just using brushes, the way I used to, and see how it comes out. I think that's a good way to start from scratch, then, work into airbrushing gradually. I probably have over twenty kits packed away at this point; planes, cars and figures, including a few Aurora monster models. When I invest in an airbrush and compressor, I will practice on a cheap model off Ebay first.
 
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That's amazing. I was never that detailed when I made models as a kid.

I watched about 8 how-to videos tonight on You Tube on airbrushing basics, compressors, airbrushing techniques, etc. I realized that the airbrush itself, the accessories and a compressor is going to set me back hundreds of dollars.
I'm a little out of touch on pricing but I think you could get set up for your needs for maybe a couple hundred including paints/ supplies, starting with something like this:
My music room is simply not set up for airbrushing, and I don't want to expose myself and family to the noise in the house, so I'm going to look at alternatives. I could conceivably airbrush outside in the shed in warmer weather, or in the backyard. I also learned that the Iwata airbrush is a good one to start with.
I think you'll see the compressor isn't that loud, and having a spray booth really simplifies indoor work, that's where the big bucks are:
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ONLY $1800 which seems like a great deal until you realize you still gotta install the ducting and filters to comply with OSHA standards.

(OK, yeah I was going a little over the top for laughs. 🙃 )

I see the airbrush as ideal for parts needing consistent covering like car/plane bodies, engines, chassis, interior tubs, and they're ideal for things like camo patterns, you get the idea, but there's a still a place for brushes for fine detail.

/QUOTE]I decided to build one of my other stashed kits first just using brushes, the way I used to, and see how it comes out. I think that's a good way to start from scratch, then, work into airbrushing gradually. I probably have over twenty kits packed away at this point; planes, cars and figures, including a few Aurora monster models. When I invest in an airbrush and compressor, I will practice on a cheap model off Ebay first.
For things like car bodies you can get very good results with spray cans, but not only do they need to be shaken thoroughly and then again even 2 or 3 times, but need to be used in an ideal temp range: too cold and the droplets tend not to atomize as finely, too hot and the paint dries too fast. Either on can result in getting too thick layer of paint which tends to bury fine surface details like rivets or body moulding.

That's where understanding thinning is good to know for brush work. I think most of us just used the straight paint from the little Testors or Pactra jars, right? Unless there was another modeler in the family, nobody to teach us the little trick of thinning, which helps keep the coat nice and thin, and helps prevent brush marks. :)

Also I tried spray cans outdoors a couple of times, and discovered it's almost impossible to have a perfectly still day. There's always a little waft of air that seems to come along and carry paint away from the piece.. Then you try to compensate and wind up with uneven coverage.
Also it's better to use multiple coats than to try to do it all in one pass, and that means at least a 24 hour cure time between coats, just like lacquering a guitar. Also can result in orange peeling or "drips".

Or at least that applied to NCL-type spray paints, I'm not even sure they make those anymore.

One of the nicest jobs I ever did was on a '63 Stingray, going for the factory Silver Blue color:
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(not the model)

Did it by using Silver as the base coat and then spraying a couple of thin/light coats of Dark Blue over it.

Gives a different effect than the single-paint job on that Avanti, a little more realistic I think, although in my case the color I wanted just wasn't available off the shelf or I probably would have gone for it.

I did go wrong once though, using an automotive paint on my own Avanti model because it was available. Turned out to be a little too rich in solvents which softened the plastic, yielding a bizarre after effect.

Good luck and have fun! Let us now how it goes!! :)
 
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Lacquer isn't good on plastics, but my bro and I found a good use for them on interior work. He'd run out of paint for the interior color which was going to be red. So he borrowed some of my sisters lacquer nail polish. Seems when you paint it on plastic (the seats) it crinkles the surface just a tiny bit before it dries and gave them a nice "leather look" that was really nice. Good thing he tried it on the seats first!
 

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A-yup. Here's one for example with one of the finest pieces I've ever seen:
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The real secret is a good airbrush which yields the smoothest and thinnest coats works the best for flesh tones too.. Then a steady hand with a detail brush if needed.
And yeah, I built my best stuff when I was in my '20's, and was a lot more patient.

Suspect "Beginner's airbrush" wouldn't be worth $20.00, do a little research to learn bout what makes a good one, primarily a very fine consistent droplet size at any aperture opening, IIRC. And a small clamp and/or vise to hold stuff up off the table when needed.
Yep, that's why I stopped, no place to dedicate to building, where one could just walk away and return as desired without having to pack stuff up.

I get that. You just reminded me, though, I'd a least buy a cheap "practice kit" or 2 especially to familiarize yourself with the airbrush and modern glue set-up times for example, and refresh X-Acto trimming skills.. You'll be glad you did. ;)
One of the first things I learned about my friend Chuck who eventually became our drummer that was when he was in grade school he made the best car models of anyone. This was before Testors spray paint. He would hand brush the cars and then put then into the oven on a low temperature and the paint would flow before drying and get rid of any brush marks. I could believe it--when he did refinishing antique furniture for me everything looked like new when he finished--unfortunately by the time he'd finished he'd put $300 worth of time into something I had to sell for $200!
 
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