adorshki
Reverential Member
Here's a close-up of the truss rod area. Looks like maybe somebody did hack out some wood by the nut. Maybe the previous owner tried using a standard nut driver and it wouldn't fit w/o clearing some space? Who knows? I will be taking this to the guitar tech I use and see what he says are my options. Can a piece of wood be glued back in? Should I get a three screw cover and drill small holes for screws. I would like to cover the space to keep junk out of the truss rod area.
Precisely.In looking at that headstock photo I don't see a lower hole for the bottom screw!
Think the wood right next to the nut's been removed/access slot's been enlarged for whatever reason, and now that adjusting nut also doesn't look right somehow.
Mine're at home and rarely take off TRC's so memory might be faulty.
But a too-large replacement adjusting nut could explain why the wood was removed to allow access or maybe simply installation.
At the moment, humor aside, agreed.Do NOT do a 3 screw cover. That's how you can tell a Chinese made guitar apart from the others. American guitars always have 2 screws.
It has now occurred to me as mentioned above that the nut itself might be a replacement, and that might explain all that. We've periodically been quizzed about what to use for an adjusting tool and yes, 1/4" thinwall socket seems to be the "trick":Yes, it's a little bit ugly around the hole but unless something's wrong the the TR itself, it's not really an issue. It looks like somebody tried to turn it with a pair of pliers, or?
It takes a 1/4" nut driver, commonly used on tiny hose clamps.
http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/showthread.php?174612-Tool-for-older-style-truss-rod
Khan if that's larger than 1/4" that's your culprit right there.
YIKES! While I was painstakingly composing all this I see Hans confirmed that exactly.
SO...hope this is still "do-able":
Much as I respect your efforts with some of your rescue dogs, I still think that leaves a potential for TRC buzzing, maybe even more possible with that unseated screw right next to the nut and possibly contacting it, so I think getting a small piece of wood glued in there to give screw #2 something to be seated in is desirable.Back to the cover. Yes, there is wood missing, but I wouldn't bother putting it back in. I'd take a cover, and a pair of screws, and just simply glue the lower screw into the cover, install with upper screw, thx to gravity, it stays in place just fine. I've had to do this before.
Go for it Khan!I have the cover and the screws, can send no charge by way of letter. I live to fix stuff, even from a distance, and there's nothing better than fixing a Guild.
The rest of the guys here will tell you how to put it on right )
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And moving right along:
Probably the chatoyancy of the 'hog top. Still I can visualize what you mean and it's still the lightest one I can ever recall seeing.My pic does make it look a shade or two lighter than it is but, it seems to really look different in different light and especially at different angles.
Think Byrne's for example is "Woodgrain Red", in any case that's the dark color I most associate with 'em.
Guild announced they had standardized on a 12" radius on everything in '97 and it was already a common spec for 'em so suspect it is, also should be 1-5/8' nut.I am coming form being a mainly electric, solid-body player. Stratocasters mostly. And I go for flatter fretboards. I have longer fingers so, a 12" radius feels better. Not sure what the radius is on this guy but, it feels great in my hands. Better than any other acoustic guitar I'd played and I've been looking for quite a while.
As much as we like to bash GC around here for lack of product knowledge, that part jives with things we've heard in the last couple of years.It was really hard to hold off and not just buy it at any price but, my cheapness and feeling to need to "make a deal" drove me and gave me resolve to hold out. And much as I wouldn't have wanted to, I was ready to walk on it when we were dealing at GC. The guitar must have been there a fair bit longer than when I came upon it. They probably still made $100 on it. The DM said to go lower, he'd have to contact their vintage office. I don't know if that was true or not but, I figured I would take the deal on the table and I really was happy with it.
Actually if this were a more common model I might even suggest asking for a return based on the truss nut problem, but as you're well aware the next one may not come along for quite a while, unless you're willing to open up to different woods on other Fxxce models for the playability you like.
Just look for that 24 fret neck.
The series did go to a 25-5/8 scale neck circa late '94 so those models feel a little different but still use the 12" radius and 1-5/8 nut.
Otherwise I hope you can still recover from that Gibson-style nut by just gluing in some wood to take the 2nd TRC screw, as replacing the rod is probably more trouble than it's worth for most people.
:friendly_wink:Thanks for the links to appreciate the guitar even more. I haven't checked them out yet but, that's next after submitting this. And I really appreciate your sharing all of this background on this guitar. That is very thoughtful and kind of you, adorshki!
Hey I got a special place in my heart for the whole "Fxxce" family:
I first found this place when I was trying to find out if my own F65ce had any special cult following or was associated with any famous players, similar mission to yours.
We loves our Guilds around here and want to see all the strays brought home to loving owners where they belong.
My F65ce is responsible for me realizing how important the outline of that model (based on the F40 'grand auditorium' or 16" lower bout jumbo shape dating all the way back to the '50's) was in Guild's history.
They don't even offer that outline now and seem to have conceded the market to Taylor.
And no slam against Taylor but they just don't feel or sound the same.
I love my F65ce to death but to be perfectly honest my own pipe dream is one of those Fxxce bodies with that 24-fret 24-3/4" scale neck and a 1-11/16 nut, something I can't find they ever made.
So I keep my fingers crossed that someday Oxnard'll see the light and bring back the series with my ideal neck.
Or at least take a special order for it.
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