When and how did you acquire your first Guild?

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I told my story when I first joined this forum, but I'll retell.

I discovered Guilds when I was a poor, working musician. I only had a '76 Strat (couldn't afford a 60s) and an acoustic. I needed a jazz guitar and scrounged all my money for a Gibson ES-175. I went to our local guitar show prepared with a strategy--scout out all examples and wait until the last hour, when the dealers were ready to haggle. I must've played at least a dozen different ES-175s dated from the 50s to the 80s. As I waited it out in a corner, the dealer behind a table asked me what I was looking for. I told him and he handed me the guitar he was playing, a '64 CE-100. "Check this out," he said. It wasn't hard to convince me 'cuz that guitar had been played to death, with wear and mojo in all the natural places. It just felt and sounded right. Apparently, it was the guitar his employees played all the time, and they refused to let him sell it for two years. He thought it was finally time for it to move on, and I walked away with it as well as the extra $900 I saved. Even though it had a repaired headstock crack and no bridge pickup, which I really wanted, I bought it anyways with no regrets. Years later, I sold it to replace it with a '68 CE-100DP, which feels just as great. The guy I sold it to also had the exact same reaction that I did when he picked it up--he was amazed and overjoyed. Made me happy it was going to him. I'm sold on Guilds now. My next goal is a late-60s M-75 or perhaps, I'll explore the acoustics.

Here are some pics of my first love. . .sniff sniff. :cry:

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wow that is gorgeous. i love "player's guitars" versus museum pieces. the old Chesterfield headstock inlay has to be one of the classiest out there!
 

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Thanks Jahn
I know what you mean about player guitars vs. museum pieces. My '59 T-100 is really clean, but I always feel afraid to pull it out of the case. I think daily of just buying a beat 60s (I like the slimmer neck) T-100 or Starfire that I don't have to baby so much and can outfit as I like with impunity.

And thanks John
I liked your synchronicitous (taking liberties with webster's) story too. I'm a firm believer in things happening for a reason!

John
 

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I've played some pretty amazing guilds through the years, most notably a couple of wonderful sounding 12 strings from the 60s. Always been curious about them. Finally pulled the trigger on a Dearmond M75T. Played a used Bluesbird for two minutes at a store last week, and now that one's much on my mind. Maybe soon.
 

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So here's my story:

My uncle was the guitar player of the family and always brought his acoustic along wherever he went, family functions, holidays and just hanging out. Growing up in upstate NY, we got used to seeing his D-35 come out of the case after dinner to play some Tim Hardin, Cat Stevens, CSN and other favorites. Along the way he would tell me stories of how he and my parents would go down to Greenwich Village during the 60s folk movement and his experiences at Woodstock. (Side note: his Late 60s D-35 was stolen years ago and he eventually bought an '84 D-35 to replace it)

Because of these family experiences, I always felt that the holy grail of acoustics were Guilds.

Fast forward to just after I graduated from college in '99. I was ready to upgrade my plywood Takamine acoustic to something better when I came across an '85 D-35 hanging in one of my favorite hangouts, Guitar Den in Orlando, FL. I was able to get the guitar in trade for my Takamine and a 90s Epiphone Casino which I had gotten very frustrated with since I bought it with a repaired headstock and wouldn't stay in tune.

When I brought the Guild to the next family get-together, my uncle and I discovered that my D-35 was separated from his by just 190 units according to the serial numbers!

This acoustic is easily the best sounding and recording guitar I've come across. I'll never part with it.
 
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Rewind to 1971. I already had my first good electric and amp under my belt - a late 60s ES335 and a Fender Deluxe. I felt it was time for a decent acoustic and a better amp. (The Deluxe just wasn't cutting through drummers, etc.)

I had saved quite a bit of money from my candy store job and I went down to Silver & Horland Music in lower Manhattan. They later moved up to 48th St. in Midtown and no longer exist. Anyway, I ended up with an early 70s SF Twin Reverb (wish I still had it - it was awesome) and an early 70s Guild D50. I still have that!!

I tried Martins, Gibbys, Fenders, and Guilds, all in that $300 or so price range, and I kept coming back to the D50. That was the one that spoke to me. So, for about $330, I had my first, and still my only good acoustic guitar. Wish I had the money for more Guilds, both acoustic and electric. They've produced some fine instruments over all these years.
 
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This is my story in a nutshell. In 4th grade elem. school I signed up for the band. I chose a guitar but they didn't use any. My mom asked if I wanted to learn piano or a wind instrument. Well, I picked the trumpet & played it until 7th grade. I really didn't enjoy it much so I finally got kicked out of the class for acting up. A good friend & his buddy were playing guitars & had a little duo going for a while. My friend taught me how to play the theme from Peter Gun. I talked my folks into a guitar & some lessons. They leased me a Gibson Melody Maker & small amp. I played around but never real serious.

At about 13, I found a Fender Strat that had been refinished in white & I had to have it. I spent some of my Bar Mitzvav money & got it w/ Tweed case for around $200 or so. I new nothing about set up etc & this bugger had a high action & very hard to play. I wish I never got rid of it but that is another story. I was a stupid young kid & didn't know what I had.

Fast forward to around 21. My first wife bought me a cheap acoustic no name. I noodeled around but never was any good (still not). After we split I went out & looked at guitars & didn't now much. I found the Alvarez line & chose one that was around $300. They took my cheapo & I financed the balance for a couple of years. I still own it.

I had always been interested in Karate & Judo so I started lessons in '72. Got tired of being thrown around in Judo & thought the Karate would be easier on my body. Little did I know. 30 years later my body is wrecked but I wouldn't stop. I played my Alvarez during this time but I was always nursing bad fingers, etc & it made it hard to play. My life then was Karate, 24/7.

In '86 I found a '66 Fender DuoSonic for $100 & bought it. Played around w/ it & the Alvarez when my hands would let me. I still have it.

Around '91 I wanted a new Fender & bought my first Tele brand new & found a 'late 70's SFTR. I started playing it & a year later got another Strat.

It went downhill from there. I found the FDP & learned a lot of info. From there I went nuts. One nite I decided to visit the Guild/DeArmond forum & this was around the time the DeArmonds were being dc'd. I put in an order for a T-400 but never was lucky enough to get one. Then I started reading about the Guilds. I found one that looked nice & ordered it over the net. This was my first, an X-170T. I sort of went nuts since that first Guild & now have many.

I still own all the axes I bought except I sold my Tele B-Bender a month ago because I spent alot of money on my house & I needed to try & get some back.

Hans was very helpfull when I would ask him some questions about the various Guilds that I've bought.

My house looks like a music store w/ 20+ guitar cases, 7 amps & a big carvin PA system.

Now if I could just play better. So, this is my story. I still want more Guilds.
 

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1st Guild: F412

Capnjuan scratching out Cripple Creek a la Leo Kottke on his first Guild, an F412, c.1981:
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Fresh out of B-school, I moved to Guidzillaville a/k/a Columbus OH in 1979. I started looking for a new guitar and found an authentic luthier's shop somewhere on the south side of town. Hanging on the wall was a used F412 which I took down and strummed; then I had the well-documented Guild 12-string epiphany - bold, deep, musical...well, I know you 12-ers know what I'm talking about and you (Guild) 6-ers know it too.

The owner wanted more than I was willing to pay, besides, having just been to B-school, I figured that with some leg work, I might find one as good but less expensive. I went to another music shop and ordered a new, cheaper F412; waited, it showed up, and it was perfect...except it was brand new.

The new model didn't come with a fully-developed 'voice' like the wall-hanger had. I figured it didn't have the benefit of aging gracefully on the wall of a humidity-controlled luthier's shop. Anyway, it didn't sound as robust and didn't have the volume that the luthier's model had.

Given its cost and beauty, I kept it in its case all the time. Assuming my theory about aging was correct, this did nothing to allow the glues and finish to cure, the wood to age, and the guitar to gain its voice. Shortly after I bought the guitar, I married and my wife came in a blisterpack with two sweet young kids. I was, and still am, what the boyz on HC call a 'bedroom' player; folk, blues, country - plenty of people already doing what I do and do it better than I.

I would take the guitar out of what was becoming its coffin, hammer out some Ian and Sylvia, Leo the K, and Fahey-istic stuff. The kids were great; they listened politely and when I was done, they would innocently ask who these people were. I patiently explained my musicology against the backdrop of Hall and Oates, the Cars, Police, Kiss...I think you know where I'm going with this; I felt like I was playing a cello.

Anyway, family demands and a weakening interest in the music coupled with the guitar's failure to gain a voice meant it spent alot of time in its case further diminishing any chance of gaining its voice. I also screwed up by leaving the strap on it with that sort of fuzzy neoprene backing; if there a few of you left out there who don't already know, the guitar's finish can be damaged by long-term exposure to the stuff...like folding the strap under the guitar in the case.

I finally sold it in 1983 to a guitar shop on McArthur Blvd. in the west end of Washington DC. I don't wish I had it back; I wish I'd bought the first one...like Woody jumping on the Gibbie...sometimes you have to go with your instincts.

Update: Edited: (Dog's pic gone - he said I posted his image without his consent) Capnjuan on the back porch with the F212.
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Hey, Cap'n. Legislation to change the name of Ohio's capital to Zillaville continues to languish in committee at the statehouse.

Actually, my wife and I moved to Columbus in 1982. We are both Youngstown natives. Y-town is a far more colorful place and breeds more interesting creatures.

So it sounds like we missed each other by a year or so.

Curious to ask. What was the name of the store where you ordered the F-412? Was it Sweetwater Music?
 

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Couldn't say 'Zilla;

If I had to find it again, I'd say it was still in town, in a strip mall west and north of where I lived on Neil Ave just below OSU.

Haven't been back since. Never made it to Y-town but, in those days, Columbus was a pretty sleepy place; you know, some weiner schnitzel, a beer, and go to bed.

There was a jazz club on the east side of town that attracted some of the bigger names; Wynton Marsalis (sp?), others and the Ohio Theater booked good acts; I saw Leo Kottke there.

But, other than that...

J
 

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Yep, Sweetwater Music was in a strip center about 3-4 miles northwest of OSU/Neil. Same place I purchased my first Guild. They went out of business several years after the big box stores - Sam Ash and Guitar Center - arrived.
 

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Probably was Sweetwater then; good price, straight-forward people.

I've been to the Guitar Center in West Palm Beach; it was a madhouse. They go through the motions there with acoustic guitars but they make their money selling dreams and cheesy/high-margin stuff to kids.
 
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This looks like a good place for my first post.

In 1978 I was working in a camera store in downtown San Diego. I had recently immigrated to California from Boston, and had sold my guitar, a Yamaha acoustic, as everything I brought with me had to fit in my little car--not really that hard at that time of life.

Anyway, this guy shows up and introduces himself as being from the Guitar Center around the corner. He wanted to buy a camera and asked if we knew we had a reciprocal discount agreement that they had worked out through our repair department. "Oh really!" I said and after checking what the agreement was proceeded to set the guy up with a great deal on the most usable, though not the sexiest, camera we had.

When he left he of course invited me to come over and he'd fix me up with a guitar. My friend who also worked in the store and I both went over and he said the best deal/quality we could get was on a Guild D25M. I was aware of Guild because I had seen Bonnie Raitt many times before she hit it big performing solo with her Guild. I'm sure I would have gone for it anyway, but that sealed it. My friend and I each bought one. I still have it, and I think my friend still has his as well. (My friend @20 years later bought a Taylor factory direct from the same guy, who had gone on to work for them.)

I have two other Guilds, both electric, including my most recent which I've had about a week, but those are for other threads!
 

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Welcom Stevieboy!


Thanks for the post; I look forward to more re/ the electrics.

JH
 

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Welcome stevieboy! Glad to have another Guild fan around.

Hey guildzilla and capnjuan,

I'm also a former Columbusite, and I used to love to poke my head in Sweetwater Music all the time. They always had interesting used stuff and were dealers for some quality guitars. When they first starting carrying Heritage guitars, I'd go in and drool over them all the time. Aside from strings and picks, my only purchase from them was a sweet little 1929 Slingerland Maybelle tenor banjo. As with a lot of gear from my working days, I had to sell it. Before this current trend of interest in old Americana music, no one wanted it, and I sold it at the Columbus Guitar show to a Scot who was ecstatic. It had a nice painting of roses on the back as well. Sigh! :( Oh well, it went with a slew of gear I sold before I moved overseas.

Anyways, lots of fond memories of Columbus' great music scene, where I came of age as a musician.
 

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Hi JP:

I was only in Columbus for a year or so and didn't stick around long enough to learn to appreciate it. I don't know about now but, going on 30 years ago, it was a socially conservative place; had to drive into the county to go to the naughty bars...uh...or so I was told...

Odd place; a lot of important diverse pieces and parts; insurance, banking, state capital, manufacturing, university, and not-for-profits all surrounded by 200 years of established agriculture.
 

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Technically, I suppose I own a Guild but it hasn't arrived yet.

I started playing bass and guitar around 1974. My first guitar was a '64 Melody Maker. Since then I've had Les Pauls, SGs, an Explorer, Firebird, Strat, Teles, Jazzmaster, Rickenbacker, I even own a Veleno.

Yet, I never had an acoustic guitar.

Only last week I started researching acoustics. I work in a studio that does a lot of acoustic music, so I see tons of great guitars every week. No Guilds hardly ever though.

I had friends that owned some Guild acoustics years ago, and for some reason I thought I'd look up Guilds and see what the models were. Then I looked at eBay to see what was available. I was drawn to the D-25M because of the dark finish and the low price. I found out they were very popular and well-regarded so I bid on one. I was going to limit my bid at $600, then decided to up it to $610 when I was outbid. I didn't think it would win, but it did and from the messages I exchanged with the seller I think I did good. He said it's had very little use since he bought it new in 1979. It should be here Friday, I'm excited.
 

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You may find the hard part of owning one is not running out and buying every one you look at.

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