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Darryl Hattenhauer

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What strings do you recommend for slide open tuning on a starfire 4, 5, or 6? I have a 1979 starfire 4D with Dimarzios--the neck has a paf, and the bridge has a super distortion (aka "super d"). By the way, the Phoenix Housewives Association lists me as "Super D."
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
PS. It stands for "Dork."
Ahhh.... Thought it might be your battery spec.
Which reminds me...You still qualified as an "Expert Witness" for the Phoenix Divorce Lawyers Association? :D
 

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Hi Darryl!
How's Rosie doing? :shock:
As far as strings for slide, my personal experience suggests that the brand matters only little in terms of tone. The tone you get is pretty much dictated by the kind of slide you use, the pick ups (super D should do good), string gauge, and the amp of course.
What I will recommend, but you probably already know that, is to go with as heavy a gauge as you feel you can put on that guitar without bringing the neck to the shape of your pride and joy tool as you lie on your back, watching Rosie leave your motel room.
Also grab what you feel are the most durable strings, (not sure myself which one they are, but EB's seem pretty durable to me) because the slide quickly deteriorates the wound ones... therefore semi flats are doing good with durability and they limit the friction noise of the slide on the wounds.
Oh and one last detail: Adjust the action a bit higher so you don't bang the frets like crazy with your slider.... but enough about Rosie. :lol:
 

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Hah! You guys are all nuttier than I am.


Addledhorski,
I'm not even qualified to be on a jury.

It was a drunk driving case. There was to be testimony from a blood analyst and two cops. The judge's instructions were that a cop was equal to any other witness, no more no less. I told the court that imho, cops are generally better witnesses for the same reason blood scientists are: they're expert witnesses. (Please, folks, I don't need to be told that there are bad cops. I've already lost one friend over this topic. But I am, indeed, more sympathetic to cops than are most people I know.)

He asked me why I was qualified to say that cops were better witnesses. I told him I'd seen it dozens of times when I was driving semis across America and gave him examples. First of all, it's been shown that cops are surprisingly accurate at estimating your speed; they're usually within 10% of what radar shows. For another example I'm sure he didn't want to hear, cops don't trust the stoplights to see if somebody just tried to slow down, because some people will use the emergency brake, or downshift, or not even have stop lights. So you judge by whether or not the car tilts forward. Trucks will puff smoke out the exhaust if you let off the fuel pedal or pull on the "Jake" brake.

The judge read the instructions to me again, as if to say, "Here, smartass. This is the law." So I analyzed the ambiguity, confusion, and inconsistency in the language, logic, and assumptions of what he read to me.

He asked me where I got off questioning the expertise of the way the law was written. I told him the law was written by politicians, who specialize not in clarification but obfuscation. He told me obfuscation was a fancy word (as if to say HF spent his life in salons). I asked him if he could think of a clearer noun that was an antonym for "clarification." (That's an old rhetorical trick; ask what you know he can't answer.)

He tried to change the subject, but I pulled him back by referring him to an article about the muddle of legalese--which appeared in the Journal Of Legal Education, co-authored by the esteemed Darryl Hattenhauer. He dropkicked me over the scales of justice.



Gentleman Jim,
After telling people that I was found unfit for jury duty, somebody told me a sure fire way to be excused: carry a Bible. It reminds me of an old Johnny Carson joke. A teacher catches her students gambling, and she says, "That's okay. Just don't let me catch you praying."



icky blues p,
As you say, I use 13's to get the vol and tone, whether electrocuted or a coup stick,

And as for reducing strain on the neck, I keep it detuned when I'm not playing it. And I use E and A tuning but step them down a whole tone so they're really D and G, which also reduces spring breakage.

I rarely try the weird opens tunings of Havens and Stills. That weird E tuning Stills uses would require a whole different arrangement of gauges, which I guess I'd do if I were really a legitimate guitarist (but enough about the circumstances of my birth).

A pro would probably use nickel, but I can't hear the difference, so I go with stainless. They're cheaper, last longer, and more closely match the color of my fillings.

I also use plain old slides of glass and steel. None of the Peruvian ceramics, corrugated cobalt, or $100 Coricidin bottles. I've seen guys spend a lot of time and money trying out different slides, and in the end they still can't decide. All they have is have a thousand-dollar slide collection.

So the question is, what brands should I use given the fact that I stay in E and A, buy stainless strings, and use cheap-ass slides?


ava,
Hey, one of those Phx housewives is Stevie Nicks.
 

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James,
I dunno. She is a fine one, but she looks a little coked up there.


BP,
I'm happy to see that Clapton, Page, etc. use stainless. But I imagine they use nickel for recording, no?

And these are cheap at Juststrings, http://www.juststrings.com/ernieballele ... nless.html

That's where I buy all of my strings. Even the ones for my bikini.

But why would lighter at regular pitch be better than heavier tuned down?
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
BP,
I'm happy to see that Clapton, Page, etc. use stainless. But I imagine they use nickel for recording, no?
I think so too, but last time I saw Eric, he wanted to spend some quality time so we didn't talk shop.

Darryl Hattenhauer said:
Even the ones for my bikini.
I've always wondered about the fit though.... you got pics?

Darryl Hattenhauer said:
But why would lighter at regular pitch be better than heavier tuned down?
It wouldn't. But I like to be able to switch from slide to finger play on the same set of strings, so 11's are a nice compromise for that.
Plus your requirements included the stainless mention.
Now, if you want to go nickel and 13, like the big boys, grab and tune these down for the most sought after growl:
http://www.wwbw.com/Dunlop-Nickel-Plate ... 37344.wwbw
And they're cheap too! 8)
 

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BP,

Now you got me convinced to go with 11s. That's because I, too, want to fret and fingerpick.

Would you also use 11s for acoustic?
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Juanito grande,

You might have just become a literary critic by adding to the scholarship on Squirmin' Herman Melville. When I clicked on the link and read it, I thought of the passage in Morbid Dick where they skin a whale's Bernie Madoff and make a fancy ceremonial robe out of it. Swish male Ishmael jokes that the robe is so fine that it's suitable for an archbishopric.

I googled "dork" and Moby Dick and found no discussion about the possibility that "dork" might have influenced the title of MD. I'll have to check the recent scholarship on MD to see if anybody has discussed the word "dork," and if they haven't, I'll have to see if whalers used "dork" before 1851. We know that the title comes from a real whale named Mocha Dick, which gave him a way to get past Victorian America with the word "dick" in a book title. But "dork" might have also been an influence.
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
BP,Would you also use 11s for acoustic?
Yes I would, and do, mostly for finger play though.
With the intent of sliding, I wouldn't hesitate to go heavier (12 or 13).
As for the resonator, it is currently strung with 16-56.... :shock:
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
I'll have to see if whalers used "dork" before 1851. We know that the title comes from a real whale named Mocha Dick, which gave him a way to get past Victorian America with the word "dick" in a book title. But "dork" might have also been an influence.
Hmmm...quick and dirty ate-a-mycology search would seem to disprove that hypodermesthes:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2009/05 ... nition.htm
and:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=dick
Can't we just all call a prick a prick?
 

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capnjuan said:
adorshki said:
.. Can't we just all call a prick a prick?
Yes ... so long as it's not a whale's Johnson

Dork (see Item #12). We would probably need a scientist to handle this subject.
OR as I used to tell my ol' schoolmarm Gramma: "Ya can't fight common usage" And these days I would add "Or user-generated content." :D
Would that scientist be "Doc Johnson", by the way? :lol:
 

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adorshki said:
... Would that scientist be "Doc Johnson", by the way? :lol:
Dunno; I see your point about common usage. Despite our mutual reliance on semi-facts, without an Ichthyological anatomist, not sure we're going to know one way or the other. :? :)
 

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capnjuan said:
Despite our mutual reliance on semi-facts, without an Ichthyological anatomist, not sure we're going to know one way or the other. :? :)
And THAT's assuming the ichthyologist is one of those guys who'll agree a whale is a fish and not a mammal... :? :D :wink:
Here's why I was thinkin' Doc Johnson may be the guy we're lookin' for:
http://www.amazon.com/Doc-Johnson-Origi ... B0007N5DSO
Try usin' of THOSE for a slide! :D
 
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