Westerly Collection QC
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OMFG!!!! Well, I'm keeping my mouth shut. For god's sake, tape off (or at least sand through) the damn bridge area before putting it on. Jeea.Holy mackerel, the bridge pulled off of this WC D-140CE. Looks like the finish was never removed before gluing so it was glued over the finish. Not good.
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Wow. There was an OM-120 recently on eBay being sold by a reseller (maybe MIRC) that had the bridge detached. There was no finish on the bridge footprint if I remember correctly.
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You look at the footprint on the soundboard and I don't see any wood on wood adherence going on. WTF?? That's just awful!! If you have a good wood/wood glue join, it's usually the wood that gives up before the glue.
I'm throwing up in my mouth if this actually a factory-shipped (new) guitar. Sigh.
After my experience returning no less than three NS M85 basses, I can say the the QC on all the Asian rim Guilds can be dodgy. That being said, the WC "b-stock" OM240E now living with a friend's daughter was fine, and she loves it.
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QC for NS Guids was terrible to the point that I was about to write an article about it with proof, but then they hired a QC director who really turned things around and the NS guitars that made it to stores were MUCH better. Then they laid off the QC director.
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Oooo I would like to have seen that listing
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Being those are poly finished I think what they needed to do was mask it. It's gotta be harder to remove it after spraying.Holy mackerel, the bridge pulled off of this WC D-140CE. Looks like the finish was never removed before gluing so it was glued over the finish. Not good.
That's a glue-to poly lacquer joint. Looks like the poly lacquer bonds to the wood better than NCL, so in this case the glue (Tite-bond not hide glue) let go. Probably got hot, too, and Tite-bond softens up at lower temps than hide glue too.
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I almost bought it but it went higher than I was willing to pay. Was in perfect condition otherwise.Oooo I would like to have seen that listing
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How much ?
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I think around $250-300, something like that. Not a bad price but it wasn’t really a guitar I was looking for so I didn’t go any higher. I only wanted it if I could get it cheap.
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Not sure the point you're making. Finish is finish, wood is wood. This is an Asian built guitar so not Hide Glue I'd say. Your point was???
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I think you misunderstood him. Al said it is a "glue to poly joint" and Tite-bond softens up at lower temps than hide glue too. Sometimes (or often?) Asian manufacturers also simply used epoxy to glue a bridge to a poly surface.
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Yeah 250 would about right . If there’s a next time grab it . I’m a big fan of these models and they have a lot of tone in them .
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Heck of a burst though.Holy mackerel, the bridge pulled off of this WC D-140CE. Looks like the finish was never removed before gluing so it was glued over the finish. Not good.
Ralf, are you saying the all these GADs/100s/Westerly series (primarily MIC) acoustics are made like this? With the bridge just glued right to the finished top???? If that's true, I'm still throwing up in my mouth only much, much more puke.
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I wouldn't say all as I simply don't know, but rosewood bridges glued with CA to the poly top is common in China factories. Actually a rosewood bridge to a poly finish has a strong bond using CA!
Can't say what the glue was in the example above, also we don't know where that picture is from as GG didn't provide a link to further look.
I remember for instance this example, guess why the poly finish was pulling away...
The finish is pulling away from the top under the bridge of my Westerly D-1212.
I figure I need to cut through the finish next to the bridge and attempt to glue down the finish before pulling the bridge off so more finish does not pull up in the process of repair. I'm a watchmaker, so have the skills and tools to do a decent job of this. I figure a modified Exacto knife or...
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