USCG to sink the Japanese "ghost ship"

CA-35

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As seen from a C-130 monitoring the situation, the ghost ship from the Japanese tsunami (last year) is drifting precariously in navigable waterways, so they plan to sink her. A Coast Guard cutter will pound explosive rounds in to the hull.

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Why doesn't someone just tow it in and salvage her for scrap? The price is up. I wonder how much fuel in still on her that will end up in the water?
 

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Bing k said:
Why doesn't someone just tow it in and salvage her for scrap? The price is up. I wonder how much fuel in still on her that will end up in the water?
It does seem like both a waste and a bad idea considering the fuel that's certain to be onboard. :?

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Alang, India is not that far away is it? That's where they salvage and scrap most of the big ships. Can't they just tow it? Seems like sinking it is the "easy" and less responsible solution. I'm agreed with y'all.....

Ooooops, just did a little research. The ship is in the Gulf of Alaska. Seems like even MORE reason to deal responsibly with it..... oh well.... they didn't put me in charge. Let it go, Tom....
 

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Bing k said:
Why doesn't someone just tow it in and salvage her for scrap? The price is up. I wonder how much fuel in still on her that will end up in the water?

Seems this boat was in a Japanese scrapyard waiting to be recycled when the Tsunami hit. Word is not much , if any fuel is on board. According to this article, shipping lane safety is the reason they're sinking her.


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Likely to be the first Japanese ship sunk by the US since 1945!
 

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CA-35 said:
A Coast Guard cutter will pound explosive rounds in to the hull.

dreadnut said:
Likely to be the first Japanese ship sunk by the US since 1945!

Coast Guard was a Pearl Harbor too. See US Coast Guard Cutter TANEY which is the only warship present at Pearl Harbor and that is still afloat.
 

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Jeff said:
Bing k said:
Why doesn't someone just tow it in and salvage her for scrap? The price is up. I wonder how much fuel in still on her that will end up in the water?
Seems this boat was in a Japanese scrapyard waiting to be recycled when the Tsunami hit. Word is not much , if any fuel is on board. According to this article, shipping lane safety is the reason they're sinking her. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... nk-it?lite

Correct. They can tell by the waterline (it is sitting high in the water) that it isn't holding much fuel.

dreadnut said:
Likely to be the first Japanese ship sunk by the US since 1945!
Great line Dread :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

fronobulax said:
Coast Guard was a Pearl Harbor too. See US Coast Guard Cutter TANEY which is the only warship present at Pearl Harbor and that is still afloat.

Correct again. :) Frono doesn't miss much. :p
 

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An update to those interested:
The Coast Guard Cutter Anacapa did away with this Maru in short order:

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Then filled it with water just for kicks:

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And yet there are still no pics of it actually GOING DOWN!! Until I see it, this is the ship that just wouldn't sink......

Torpedoes and water and ..... it still floats. I think we've finally found a ship for Francesco Schettino to captain...... :roll:
 

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davismanLV said:
And yet there are still no pics of it actually GOING DOWN!! Until I see it, this is the ship that just wouldn't sink......Torpedoes and water and ..... it still floats. I think we've finally found a ship for Francesco Schettino to captain...... :roll:

Oh my! :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock: :shock: :lol:
 

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davismanLV said:
And yet there are still no pics of it actually GOING DOWN!! Until I see it, this is the ship that just wouldn't sink......
Torpedoes and water and ..... it still floats. I think we've finally found a ship for Francesco Schettino to captain...... :roll:
Tom: Here you go:
"The Japanese fishing vessel Ryou-Un Maru disappears beneath the Gulf of Alaska more than 180 miles southwest of Sitka, Alaska, April 5, 2012. The Coast Guard Cutter Anacapa crew successfully sank the vessel at 6:15 p.m., in 6,000 feet of water, after shooting it multiple rounds of explosive ammunition.
Photos: Petty Officer 2nd Class Brandon Thomas / US COAST GUARD"

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Wow, Ralf!!! AWESOME photos! I guess it's well and truly sunk, now. And you even brought in a location southwest of Sitka, AK..... for a nice "guitar forum" tie in..... good work!!! :D :D
 

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Bing k said:
Why doesn't someone just tow it in and salvage her for scrap? The price is up. I wonder how much fuel in still on her that will end up in the water?
There was some last minute attempt to do that.
nydailynews.com reported: "As the Coast Guard was readying to fire on the vessel, a Canadian fishing vessel, the 62-foot Bernice C, claimed salvage rights over the ghost ship in international waters. Plans to sink it were halted so the Canadian crew could have a chance to take the stricken ship. A Canadian official with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press that the Bernice C was unable to tow it. That delay, in part, prompted the C-130 cargo plane to return to Kodiak, Alaska, before the ship sank because the plane burned up fuel while circling the area monitoring the situation. The Canadian boat Bernice C left, and once it was about 6 miles from the Japanese vessel, the Coast Guard began to fire, first with 25 mm shells, then a few hours later with ammunition twice that size."
And regarding the fuel problem: "The ship had no lights or communications system, and its tank was able to carry more than 2,000 gallons of diesel fuel. Officials, however, didn't know how much fuel, if any, was aboard. "It's less risky than it would be running into shore or running into (maritime) traffic," Coast Guard spokesman Paul Webb said. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the Environmental Protection Agency studied the problem and decided it is safer to sink the ship and let the fuel evaporate in the open water."

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The crew of the Bernice C were interviewed on the TV news here. They said that when they boarded the ship, they found a mix of water & fuel sloshing about in the holds. They realized that if they were able to tow it to a port, it would be very expensive to properly dispose of the water/fuel mix, so they gave up the idea.
 

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Ross said:
The crew of the Bernice C ... realized ... it would be very expensive to properly dispose of the water/fuel mix, so they gave up the idea.
SFIV1967 said:
...the Environmental Protection Agency studied the problem and decided it is safer to sink the ship and let the fuel evaporate in the open water...
Oh, the irony.

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Christopher Cozad said:
Oh, the irony.

Christopher
Yes indeed.

Once in port, disposal of an unknown volume of fuel/water would be cost-prohibitive (in Canada, probably more than the salvage would fetch).

On the open seas, different rules apply. As for the claim that spilled fuel would evaporate........
 

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Ross said:
On the open seas, different rules apply. As for the claim that spilled fuel would evaporate........
Well sure...once the volatiles are safely diffused into the atmosphere wave action will gradually reduce the remaining little tarballs.
I thought everybody knew that.
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