Hey, coop, we (I) need to see pictures of that Grand J-35. Does it have a 3-piece rosewood back like the other 35 series? I've never seen (or heard of) one of these.
Hey, coop, we (I) need to see pictures of that Grand J-35. Does it have a 3-piece rosewood back like the other 35 series? I've never seen (or heard of) one of these.
Thanks West - I'll think you'll like yours, but I also think I have a few guitars that sound better after they've been played for 10 minutes when maybe it's really just my ears acclimating to them. I think it really does make a difference for new guitars, especially dreads and Jumbos. For the GJ, it took a few days to make a difference but it was noticeable. I put the GJ away for a few days to rotate through a few other guitars; I'm curious to see what it sounds like to me the next time I grab it.Very interesting observation Coop. Veer? What's a "veer"? You may find this hard to believe, but I've actually veered a thread or two here myself. Good looking Martin jumbo you've got there. Great to hear the Tonerite helped you. Great input.
West
Thanks - I think that one is long gone. I'd be curious to know when it sold. It wasn't too too long ago that I would've called that a high price for a used Martin. My understanding is that the D-Tar was standard - the model is really a Grand J35E, and I think all of them were.Beautiful, coop! Lovely model, and definitely worth comparing to the F-55. I just noticed there's one of these on Reverb and that it also has the D-TAR multi-source. I'm rather shocked at the (low) price (FYI: https://reverb.com/item/4336498-martin-grand-j-35e-2009-natural-rare).
Great veer!
GG, your review gave me pause, but it was the only lackluster thing I'd read about the model. I agree it doesn't project like a Guild Jumbo or even a D35. The comparison to an OM-28 rings true to me - it takes that balanced sound profile and expands it, whereas my F55 is more scooped. I don't think it's my best sounding guitar (though that changes month to month), but it's up there and a lot of fun to play.I had a Grand J35E. I bought it because my Grand J40-12 sounded great so I thought the 6-string version would be it's equal.
It was not. It had a sweet sound and, to me, was just an oversize OM-28. It did not have the projection of my dreads nor of the Guild jumbos (I even Tonerited it). Maybe it was a dud or maybe that's they way it was meant to be, but I sold it after a couple of years of ownership.
I was just curious as to whether any of you have ever used a Tonerite?
I actually have one since many years and made the same observations like GGJ. It makes most sense on new guitars or on guitars that have not been played for ages.I've used on new flat top guitars. It helped open up the sound, but once that point was reached, there were no more improvements. It doesn't really do anything for older guitars that have been played in.
Thanks Ralf. That's ALL great information and I have taken note.I actually have one since many years and made the same observations like GGJ. It makes most sense on new guitars or on guitars that have not been played for ages.
I bought a GSR F-20 that was hanging as NOS in a store for a few years and boy was she stiff.
But after the usual 96 hour treatment that I use (48h high, 24h medium, 24h low) that F-20 opened up a lot and was a full sounding guitar afterwards. I also used it on some new solid bodies and had the feeling the acoustic properties were much better afterwards.
I never used a TonerRite twice on a guitar yet.
Just a little word of warning. Be careful when using it, if it comes too close to the bridge the side preasure agaist the strings can lead to an effect that the vibrating strings "sand themselves" into the bone or plastic saddle and form little groves (microgroves but still there)! So I always create a kind of hanger with a piece of wire or twine (string) from the top of the guitar stand, so when the guitar is in the guitar stand the ToneRite will not shift down towards the bridge too much. I try keeping it roughly where the sound hole is. Due to the vibration it always moves down towards the bridge. You also have to control it at least daily if you do the 96 hour total treatment if the 3 fingers didn't slip out of the strings. And obviously you have the change the speed every day or 2 days.
Ralf
Sweet pair, GG!I had a Grand J35E. I bought it because my Grand J40-12 sounded great so I thought the 6-string version would be it's equal.
It was not. It had a sweet sound and, to me, was just an oversize OM-28. It did not have the projection of my dreads nor of the Guild jumbos (I even Tonerited it). Maybe it was a dud or maybe that's they way it was meant to be, but I sold it after a couple of years of ownership.
Agreed @SFIV1967 - that's one of the most helpful posts I've read about the Tonerite.Thanks Ralf. That's ALL great information and I have taken note.
West
Okay, that one is less helpful than the prior one but still interesting. What possessed you to try that?Another weird finding for me was that on first look I wasn't sure how strong the Tonerite is. So when the guitar is hanging freely in a guitar stand (I use a Hercules one) it didn't feel like there is much going one (well the Tonerite makes noise).
But to see how it "rattles" the guitar do the following "weird" thing: Come close with your mouth to the top of the headstock and touch the headstock with your front teeth only...But be careful, it goes right into your scull! The Tonerite really stronly vibrates the neck as well. Unbelieveble. You can't feel that with your fingers in such way as with your front teeth! Sounds weird, I know...
Ralf
But to see how it "rattles" the guitar do the following "weird" thing: Come close with your mouth to the top of the headstock and touch the headstock with your front teeth only...But be careful, it goes right into your scull! The Tonerite really stronly vibrates the neck as well. Unbelieveble. You can't feel that with your fingers in such way as with your front teeth! Sounds weird, I know...
Ralf
Wow! I'll have to check that out. Mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Thanks Ralf. I'm biting my tongue here trying really hard not to ask about using the Tonerite for other things.Another weird finding for me was that on first look I wasn't sure how strong the Tonerite is. So when the guitar is hanging freely in a guitar stand (I use a Hercules one) it didn't feel like there is much going one (well the Tonerite makes noise).
But to see how it "rattles" the guitar do the following "weird" thing: Come close with your mouth to the top of the headstock and touch the headstock with your front teeth only...But be careful, it goes right into your scull! The Tonerite really stronly vibrates the neck as well. Unbelieveble. You can't feel that with your fingers in such way as with your front teeth! Sounds weird, I know...
Ralf
That was by accident I believe... but it's the same effect like an electrical tooth brush, since your teeth are the only "open and direct connection" to your bones, you feel it much stronger and direct. Your fingers or fingernails have too much soft tissue around which dampens the vibration you feel.What possessed you to try that?
I think there's a warning in the instructions about that.I'm biting my tongue here trying really hard not to ask about using the Tonerite for other things.