Time Has Passed Me By

[chazmo]

Didn't watch any of it, so I guess I didn't miss anything. Best wishes whoever won.

 

[Uke]

I would've based the whole show on this song..... and get everyone's interp..... but no. Still, it's a good song.

Now there's a song that takes me back to my high school days -- though I (like most high-schoolers back then) didn't have a clue about what this song was getting at: "Time" ? What's that!

 

[Midnight Toker]

It was a great game!
As for the 1/2 time, I haven't liked a 1/2 time show in decades. Most have been pretty cheesy. Whenever there was a decent main artist, they'd wedge some artist of the month into it and dilute the whole thing. But, I'm not going to stoop to saying what was performed yesterday "wasn't music". That sounds exactly like what my dad would yell at me through my bedroom door while I was blaring rock music on my record player. He was born in the 20's and just didn't get any of it. I'd try and get him to listen to something like Zep's I can't quit you, saying the virtuosic guitar playing is akin to his reveling in a Yehudi Menuhin cadenza. He didn't care. It was all vile shrieking to him. The ONLY time in my life I actually turned his head and perked his ears w/ "my" music was playing ELP's Pictures At An Exhibition. So...maybe yesterday's show is not your music, but it has been the music of the majority of today's youth for quite some time already. Likely 80%+ of NFL players themselves listen to it, so it's fitting for the times we live in. There are few countries or languages on the planet where rapping isn't found. As Ahmet Ertegun once said, black American culture has been the most copied culture on planet earth for the last 100 years. I'm not a fan, but I do still have my original vinyl LP of Sugar Hill Gang's Rappers Delight. And as for the performance itself, for what it was, it was very well done. A solid production, no tech glitches, and very well mixed.

 

[DrumBob]

I agree with a lot of this. Most of this, in fact. Someone asked me about the game. Game? Today? Sunday? They said THE SUPER BOWL!!! Oh.... is that today? LMAO!!

Funny. I just never had an interest in the Stupid Bowl, unless it was a local team, like the Giants or Jets. I never spend time watching sports at all. If the Yankees win, that's great, but if they lose, I don't care. If the Red Sox or Patriots lose, that I care about, because Boston sports fans are maniacs. I did some gigs years ago in Massachusetts, and everywhere we went, there were signs in restaurants and bumper stickers on cars about how much they hated NY sports teams. It really was over the top.

 

[walrus]

I watched the game, I consider it "homework" since I need to be in class with college kids this morning. Also, my Marketing students will want to discuss the commercials! I don't want to appear TOO out of touch! Although I draw the line at anything to do with the NBA.

With Tom Brady gone, my interest level in the NFL and has been lowered even more than it was before. But historically, I always watch the Super Bowl. It was good game. I didn't know much about the two teams, but this guy Cooper Kupp is pretty impressive, and you have to feel good for Mathew Stafford, getting out of Detroit onto a winning team.

For half-time, I turned it off and did some other stuff. I'm not their demographic. The last halftime shows I enjoyed were Bruce Springsteen, and of course U2's show at the Super Bowl after 9/11. Weirdly, they actually played instruments, and did not have dancers!

walrus

 

[Rich Cohen]

My wife and I watched a Bollywood film. They're about as long as a football game,..one with a halftime show. LOL.

 

[tommym]

Didn't watch it either. Seems most of the neighborhood didn't either. It was dead quiet around the neighborhood. 30 years ago the entire neighborhood would have been rock'n. Times have changed.

Tommy

 

[Cougar]

...there was not one song I heard before or at half time of the Super Bowl that I can honestly say I like or even consider to be music.

You are not alone, Richard. We found the whole half-time show to be distasteful. We were compelled to turn the sound OFF. Even then, the "choreography" was crude and sophomoric.

 

[Cougar]

...unfortunately today, the testosterone fueled posing, preening, yelling, screaming, spiking, taunting, etc, that passes for “sportsmanship,” rather reflects our society at large.....

I'd say it reflects gang culture. In protest I stopped watching football years ago when that started up. (When I grew up, sportsmanship was a thing.) I watch some of the playoffs though, and definitely the superbowl. This year they've been good games, despite the posing, preening, yelling, screaming, spiking, taunting, etc.

 

[Rich Cohen]

I made up my mind on RAP/HipHop back around 1990 when my boys brought a RAP cassette home with the song "Black Vagina Finda."

 

[Uke]

I made up my mind on RAP/HipHop back around 1990 when my boys brought a RAP cassette home with the song "Black Vagina Finda."

It's one thing when a title is offensive; but when it's not even clever it's doubly bad.

 

[bluesypicky]

When your favorite music is played in elevators and supermarkets, it's time to accept that you've moved past the center of the bell curve that the entertainment industry uses to decide what should be played on popular media.

ah ah ah ah ah!!! Best summary on the thread.
"Super" what?

 

[zulu]

Hip crowd.

 

[Midnight Toker]

Same story every generation has said about younger generation's music. Elvis and The Beatles were also once considered "crude and sophomoric".



No one is saying you have to adapt to the wheels of time, humans rarely ever do. For me, I will at least accept that it IS entertainment, and of value to newer generations. Afterall, music is just organized audible tones that subjectively spark emotion in the human spirit. In all honestly, I'll take what I heard yesterday over things many others enjoy, like techno, industrial noise, most 80's glam/hair bands, disco, and most "experimental" avant-garde music I've heard. (<cough>...Yoko!) Simple rule. If it moves you, great, if not, just let it go, as it might just be someone else's passion. As for anything being visually "crude". That too is just as subjective as audible music.

 

[MacGuild]

I guess the drugs were better back then ;]

No, the drugs are better now.

Sports, to a kid or young adult, probably has not changed much effect-wise over the generations. They still exhibit joy in not knowing it is mostly theater, they can still suspend their disbelief. As an adult, when you see behind the curtain, you are more struck by the decline.
I can't pinpoint when I lost all interest in sports, but I haven't looked at a game of anything in ages, got rid of television a long time ago, too; must be 20-years now. And I won't rant about the leagues, the owners, the players, the commissioners, the advertisers, the broadcasters, the scandals, the ever-increasing politicization, the steroids, the never-ending need for new tax-payer funded stadiums or we'll move to Albuquerque, all of which share blame for the overall decline of professional sports. But children don't see that, they don't care.

Pro Sports does have one large looming problem, millennials really don't care about it. They have unlimited entertainment options on a small hand-held screen, high-priced event tickets are not on their radar.

Sports offers little relative value for your money now. When attending a playoff game costs the same as the price of a 1975 Guild on Reverb, the Guild wins. Or, more commonly these days, when taking a family of four to a game costs the same as two-week's worth of groceries, you're not going to Dodgers Stadium today, kids.

 

[ezstrummer]

worst half time show ever....

 

[silverfox103]

Unless I missed it, it sure didn't seem like "diverse" show, as is popular to say these days.

Tom

 

[jp]

I guess I'm going to be the outlier here. Not only do I like a lot this old school hip hop and rap, but I also have a lot of memories associated with it. I'm on the front end of the Gen Xers, and at the time rap and hip hop culture exploded, I recall it was quite a thing.

This half time was most certainly aimed at the older nostalgia crowd from that late 80s, early 90s period. Not only was I trying to make it as a musician at the time in my early 20s, but I was paying close attention to the gazillions of music genres emerging at this time. These were turbulent times politically, but they were also marked by a significant culture clash that I think is evident in the comments above. Public reactions were not unlike when early jazz, Elvis, punk rock, or the Beatles became popular.

And while rap and modern R&B are not my favorite genres of music, and often journey into lyrics, language, and themes contrary to my value system, I can respect that it has its place for a lot of people. As for the quality of the performances and presentation inside of and on top of what looked like a train of double wide trailers, I give it a solid meh.

 

[Midnight Toker]

Sports has never been "pure". From the 1919 World Series on. There was more doping in the 70's than any time after. (During the Lyle Alzado years, it was said that likely 80% of the NFL were doping) We are just more hyper aware because the league's are actually testing. There have also been crap owners forever. (Marge Schott!), and teams have been relocating regularly since the beginning of American pro sports. There are only a handful of "original" franchises in all sports in the US. It's nothing new. These leagues look nothing like the ones my father grew up with. And back then, teams, players, coaches did anything they could to get an advantage over their opponent, within, or outside of the rules. As for millennials, they pack the student sections of every football/basketball game across the country. My nephew, and all his friends, watch nothing but sports and attend sporting events regularly.

Ageing out is just a natural progression in life. But don't think for a second things were all roses back in the day and everything is in decline. The level of athletisicm and competitiveness is miles beyond what it was just 30-40 years ago. And big money contracts have ushered in incredible breakthroughs in sports medicine that are now common procedures for us all. If it weren't for the 50 million dollar athlete, a ACL surgery might still be a rubber strap stapled to your bones. It wasn't that long ago that race horses received better medical treatment than football players. We've all benefitted from it.

DiMaggio's Yanks couldn't win a pennant against today's teams, neither could the Monsters of the Midway, or Red Aurbach's Celtics. When I see old B&W film of fat guys in baseball uniforms smoking cigars in the dugout between innings, decline is not a word that comes to mind when thinking about today's game.

 

[bluesypicky]

And while rap and modern R&B are not my favorite genres of music, and often journey into lyrics, language, and themes contrary to my value system, I can respect that it has its place for a lot of people.

....reminds me of what I read about the History of the Blues, it was considered vulgar, and coming straight from the drunk Devil's workshop if you listened to the "good" church goers / Gospel folks' opinion.
Some things will never change, including this need the average Joe seemingly has, to spew bile on stuff he either doesn't know, fears, or dislike, based on this "value system" you mention.
I will add, for the record, I find no personal musical interest in rap or hip hop, except maybe for an amusement when watching the choreographic soft porn associated with it.