Tell me about the Rhythm Chief 1100 pickup, please!

gilded

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Hey, folks what do you like better, originals or copies? Tell me about the re-creations, too. How would they sound with Fender Princeton Reverbs? How about a Pro Reverb?

Dows anybody repair the old ones? How much $$$$

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Guilded, I have experience with a vintage RC 1000, if that’s any help; they can’t be that much different.
Mine is the ‘ monkey on a stick’ variety, I couldn’t bring myself to put holes in the neck to mount the other kind.
I use it on a ‘35 Gibson L-50. It is an extremely satisfying combination.
It sounds great through all of the Fender amps you mentioned; I have them all. It also shines played through a (in my case Gibson GA-20) tweed amp.
there was a little bit of a learning curve with this PU, though. I was a little disappointed at first; it sounded spikey and brittle. I’ve since discovered that the volume needs to be rolled back to about halfway and room volume controlled from the amp. That gives the fat, honking vintage tone I want.
One knock on the 1000 is the B string is louder than the rest. I haven’t found it to be a big a deal. The 1100 has adjustable pole pieces, so I guess that takes care of the problem.
the originals are very pricy. The vintage 1100 quite a bit more that the 1000, which was pricy enough.
I hope others with the RC 1100 pipe up; I’m curious, too
 

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I was at NAMM 2013 when Guild introduced the American Patriarch models. I talked to Mike Lewis there about the pickup. Mike said they used a 1957 Johnny Smith Award model from 1957 which Guild bought as the baseline of the new 2013 version of an Artis Award. In 1957 the model would have used a DeArmond® Model 1000 Rythm Chief, but Guild decided to use the DeArmond® Model 1100 Super Chief (or Adjustable Rhythm Chief), which is a more elegant unit with six adjustable poles. They are made by BHK in Korea (BHK=Booheung Precision Machinery Co Ltd, Korea). When talking to Guild's Kim Keller, he said regarding the pickups: "FMIC owns the DeArmond designs, and they did a dead-nuts repro of the Rhythm Chief (used in the Newark St. series A-150 Savoy™) and Super Chief pickups. They sound just like the old DeArmonds, and that's a very good thing."

So at least what Kim Keller thought is that the re-created versions have the "same" sound. The DeArmond brandname was sold by FMIC to Cordoba Music Group and is distributed through any authorized Guild Dealer world-wide.
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Thanks for the input, gentlemen.

Best, gilded
 
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