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I've seen & heard them in a local shop. They do sound good. But it's hard to get by the preference for tubes over solid state.
 

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The psychological preference, or do tube amps just sound that much better than the Quilter? Other than this clip I have never seen them, but the sound is very close to me in this video.
 

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I have a head on the way. I know, heresy, but at $550, a hundred watt that weighs nine pounds, has reverb, will take any speaker load, and works on wall power between 80 and 240V anywhere in the world, and is small, was hard to resist. It comes in its own little gig bag, so I'm thinking it will be the perfect backup at gigs in case one of my tube combos craps out. I'll write a report when it gets here and I had a little time with it.
 

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I'm very curious about the Quilter line. Have been playing two older SS amps lately - Gibson Lab L3 and a Yamaha G50. Quite cheap, so traded into one for a rehearsal amp, bought the other for a bandmate. My preference for tubes doesn't change, but I sure appreciate these cool amps for what they can do, rather than get hung up in what they're not.

The Aviator 1x12 is the one I'd like to try.
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I posted a review on the Gretsch pages, I'll copy and past it :

Well, I gigged it. (the Quilter head)

Not in ideal circumstances, I might add - it was a "jam", as in four people on stage who get together three times a year, and this particular bar didn't sound great at all, the stage was too small, and we were too loud. And I had a 4X10 cab with it I don't particularly like, with speakers I'm not crazy about either.

But it's a real amp, for sure. I spent both sets on the "gain knob" channel, dialed in for a little bit of breakup, and it does that very nicely. Clean when you back off your pick attack a little, breaks up when you dig in, very much like a tube amp. And it's not hard to find that sweet spot either. I tweaked knobs a little bit until about the fourth tune, left it alone after that.

Played my twin Lollar 50's P90 tele 90% of the time, a strat on a couple of tunes. Funny thing, I had every knob on that right side channel at noon - the gain, the tone controls (active, so noon is effectively "flat"), the master volume, and the treble-cut knob too. The guitar sounded as good as ever, and didn't turn into something weird feeling/sounding. It was plenty loud at these settings too, too loud for a lot of stages/places.

The reverb.....I still think it's great for a digital reverb, but it's a digital reverb. If you're used to tube-driven spring reverb...well....it's not tube driven spring reverb. I like my reverb, and usually have it turned up pretty high - turned the 'verb in the Quilter down to a little less than my usual amount after a couple of tunes, because it gets a little bit plasticky at high settings. For my taste anyway. A little too clean.

The amp is plenty bright. I understand now why Quilter ships their combos with the Celestions they have in them, which are on the darker end of the spectrum. With the speakers I had in that cab today (two Eminence copperheads, two Jensen P10Q's), I had the treble cut at halfway, treble control on the amp flat, and I did have the thought the amp probably has more treble on tap than anyone could possibly need.

FInal thought : the amp appears to be very, very transparent sounding, if that makes sense. As in : the character of the guitar you're playing really comes through, more so than with the average tube amp, and the same goes for the speakers. In my case, that translates into "I better pair this amp with speakers I really love".
I know I'm being a little vague here, but it's as if the amp doesn't have a lot of color or character of its own, and the litlte it does appear to have, veers towards the Blackface Fender side of things - which is great, but after some years of playing Fender-replica tweeds, that are pretty much all barky, woody, grunty midrange, the Quilter seemed very neutral and transparent.

Which is not a bad thing - more of an observation.

But even just after the one gig, for the silly low price, and seeing how incredibly practical it is, it really does get my vote. It's a real amp, and I'll go as far as saying I think it sounds better than a lot of tube amps that sell for more.

If you're the type who has a favorite amp that's a one trick pony with a very cool trick you particularly love, an amp that's ALL character and color that makes every guitar you plug into it sound "like that amp", the Quilter is not for you. Anyone else, it's definitely worth a try.


And here's a pic of the rig I'm describing in the review (click the pic for a full size view) :
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Walter, thanks for the review.

Is that cabinet ported? It looks like there is a dark vent running across the bottom of the cab.
 

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No, it's a cab a buddy built for me, same height and width as a Super Reverb, depth of a Showman cab, and open-back. We used "recycled" grill cloth off of an old Fender Bandmaster Reverb cab for this one, and that's responsible for that dark stripe you're seeing. No port, just standard Fender style open-back.
 

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Got it, thanks. Is the deeper cab too woofy for you?
 

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Well, let me put it this way : if we were to spec out a cab again, I wouldn't have him built it to that depth, but standard Fender combo depth. It has an awful lot of low end, which is fine with the solidbodies, but it can be a bit much with the big Guilds.
 

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Yeah, been there.

When you build the next cab, be sure to figure out how much cubic space a super head takes up in the cab that you are used to and take that into account.
For example the old '60's Marshall BluesBreaker 2x12 combo cabs were 12" deep. The 'non-combo' 2x12 cabs were only 11' deep. Why? They took into account the amount of space that the amp chassis took up in the original combo cab. The 'speaker only' cab was correspondingly narrower but had approximately the same sound.

What kind of speaker board are you using? If you are using multi-laminate plywood (like on a Bassman), get your builder friend to secure the board at the top and the bottom, but not on the side. That way, you can have the speaker board contribute to the overall sound as it flexes, like a sound board on a piano. Just a thought.

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Sounds like a keeper! I have debated getting a very portable combo for mostly jazz, but some blues as well. Sounds like the Quilter will work very well. Thanks Walter!!
 

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Gilded, I'm having a smaller cab built, waiting for it now. It'll be a 3X10, the size of a tweed Bandmaster.

Guildman, I don't think you can go wrong with these for mostly Jazz - it has a very rich clean tone that reminds me of a Blackface Fender Twin Reverb.
 
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