Putting Seymour Duncan P90 Staple Pickups in X 175

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I like my Guild X-175. The only issue I have is with the pickups. They're not bad, but I don't completely love the tone I get from them. I was thinking of replacing them with Seymour Duncan P90 Staple Pickups. I was wondering, since both are single coils, could I just swap out the pickups? Or would I have to re wire anything? Also, have any of you tried the P90 staples. I've always wanted to try some as I've always heard great things about them. Thanks.
 

Walter Broes

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You wouldn't have to rewire anything, but while you're in there, and spending money on very expensive pickups, you might as well put better pots and switch in there. I've had and used my Newark Street X175 for about six months, and the pots have gone scratchy already. The switch is the standard asian made variety, and it rattles in the middle position. It won't sound any different with better pots, but it will stay problem free longer.

As for the sound of Staple pickups, I've played some old ones. They're great pickups, brighter than a typical P90, and (even!) louder. To fit them to a Newark Street X175, you're going to need spacers under them to kick them up to the right height, or they'll sit too far away from the strings, the NS guitars have a pretty tall neck set.
Also keep in mind that with all the "stuff" inside those pickups, they're a little heavier than the average pickup, and in the worst case, they might dampen the acoustic response of your guitar somewhat - not a huge issue on a laminated electric archtop though.

I've just had my X175 pickups rewound, and I'm happy I did - they do sound better. I had them wound slightly lower than stock, more in the range of what my old ones measure, and they do sound closer now. The difference is subtle, but definitely there, and it did get rid of what I perceived as a grating, annoying upper midrange peak in the stock pickups. You'd think a coil is a coil, wire is wire, and 1 or 2 Kohm wouldn't make any difference, but it does - without wanting to get all cork-sniffer and snobby, there does seem to be something generic and ugly to cheaply made, robot-wound pickups. And I had the neck pickup underwound compared to the bridge, so they balance better than stock.
 
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^ Pick-up sniffer !
Lol, I'm a pickups sniffer too. I have an Epi Byrdland that I'm considering putting the SD "staple" pickups in. It currently has Gibson humbuckers that leave me cold. Maybe a set of humbucker route P-90s would improve this guitar without alterations. Beautiful looking and playing guitar other than that. The best option would be to sell it and buy another Guild though. Anybody up for a trade?
 

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I'm intrigued by the Staple pickups myself.

From what I read on the net, Ron Thorn made the most highly feted staple tops. They were custom made & quite expensive. I don't believe the original models are made anymore but he makes an easier to produce version which is supposed to get very close to his original custom versions at a friendlier price: http://www.thornguitars.com/gt90pu-htm/gt90pu.htm

The staple pickups I guess are similar in construction to the Dearmond Dynasonics in that the pole pieces are magnets unlike the standard P90s which have two bar magnets under the coil and astride the metal screw polepieces. TV Jones does a Dearmond pickup and may also be an option. They have a version in soapbar (p90 style) mount but not sure if they do a dogear mount: http://tvjones.com/pickups-2/single-coil-pickups/t-armond/
 
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