davenumber2
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At 1:40 in the video it shows the serial number as (apparently) the first guitar built in Oxnard, which, in the video is a D40. I thought the first ones made there were the M20 and D20. Is that wrong?
I thought Oxnard abandoned red spruce for tops, and in fact it didn't get used for 17" jumbos and D55's in NH either?
At 1:40 in the video it shows the serial number as (apparently) the first guitar built in Oxnard, which, in the video is a D40. I thought the first ones made there were the M20 and D20. Is that wrong?
I thought that too, that the M20 was absolutely the first model brought to market ("just like in Westerly"), but got surprised in the last year or so when somebody (@GGJaguar , I think?) posted a pic of a D20's s/n which would have made it #1 built in Oxnard. Apparently the "pilot build", and thinking of it that way might make sense if they planned to build more dreads than parlors.Haven't watched the vid, Dave, but unless that was a factory employee saying that I'd say it's wrongo bucko. You're right. M-20 and D-20 were the first things we were talking about here.
The guitar in the video is a D40. The first guitars to market from Oxnard were the “entry level” M20 and D20. D40 production came later as I understand it. That’s why I found it interesting that the D40 in the vid has the serial C000001.I thought that too, that the M20 was absolutely the first model brought to market ("just like in Westerly"), but got surprised in the last year or so when somebody (@GGJaguar , I think?) posted a pic of that D20's s/n which would have made it #1 built in in Oxnard. Apparently the "pilot build", and thinking of it that way might make sense if they planned to build more dreads than parlors.
It occurs to me Oxnard's been more than a bit a bit opaque about a lot of stuff.
Yep, uncorrected typo, had "D20" on brain, thanks, fixed.The guitar in the video is a D40. The first guitars to market from Oxnard were the “entry level” M20 and D20. D40 production came later as I understand it. That’s why I found it interesting that the D40 in the vid has the serial C000001.
What is this guitar then? Prototype?
Just realized, might have misunderstood Dave number 2. He says the D40 actually has a different s/n, "C000001"as opposed to "C16..."
Too busy tryin' to keep up with this thread!Make sure you watch the "FLIM". Guess nobody caught that typo.
I wonder if Hans is having "fun" with all this?As mentioned, the first production guitar shipped from Oxnard was the D-20 with C160001.
M-20 and D-20 were produced in parallel, the first M-20 and D-20 were shipped out of Oxnard to Chicago Music Exchange in April 2016. I don't know the first M-20 serial number. (I simply have not watched them at dealers to check the serials.)
I have no real good idea why that D-40 got such C000001 serial number. As "00" is no year I simply would assume it was the first D-40 prototype. (It is not the one displayed at NAMM 2017 and also not the one which they used for stock pictures.)
Also note that the laser burned number plate uses a different font compared to the production plates (lines are exchanged). That all points prototype.
Ralf
I wonder if he cares much about Oxnard (or NH or Tacoma for that matter). I thought his interest ended with the Corona facility.I wonder if Hans is having "fun" with all this?
I wondered that a few years back myself, but Ralf confirmed he was still paying attention through NH at least. IIRC he had a good relationship w/ Fender, but wouldn't surprise me if Cordoba's been less than enthusiastic with research assistance.I wonder if he cares much about Oxnard (or NH or Tacoma for that matter). I thought his interest ended with the Corona facility.
Not sure I did.. ...but if you say so...but Ralf confirmed he was still paying attention through NH at least.
It was while NH was still open, and I asked if he was following 'em after Corona. CMG/Oxnard wouldn't have been a factor yet.Not sure I did.. ...but if you say so...
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