Posts regarding Oxnard's startup

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Here is a short factory tour vid from Oxnard (2017) where you clearly can see those "wing braces" (0:42 sec) on M-20 I guess :



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At 1:40 in the video it shows the serial number as (apparently) the first guitar built in Oxnard, which, in the video is a D40. I thought the first ones made there were the M20 and D20. Is that wrong?
 

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Haven't watched the vid, Dave, but unless that was a factory employee saying that I'd say it's wrongo bucko. You're right. M-20 and D-20 were the first things we were talking about here.

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I thought Oxnard abandoned red spruce for tops, and in fact it didn't get used for 17" jumbos and D55's in NH either?
(Nevermind re red spruce, thought the tag meant the top was Adi, I know they still had adi bracing. But my BIG question is, they're using the same braing for thet 6 as the 12? In Westerly (and I suspect right through to Tacoma at least, 12's REQUIRED stronger bracing due to the extra string tension. Not only that, the fatter bridge and neck block would make a slight change in pattern as well, I think.
Suspect the 12-er actually gets some tweaks.
At 1:40 in the video it shows the serial number as (apparently) the first guitar built in Oxnard, which, in the video is a D40. I thought the first ones made there were the M20 and D20. Is that wrong?
Haven't watched the vid, Dave, but unless that was a factory employee saying that I'd say it's wrongo bucko. You're right. M-20 and D-20 were the first things we were talking about here.
I thought that too, that the M20 was absolutely the first model brought to market ("just like in Westerly"), but got surprised in the last year or so when somebody (@GGJaguar , I think?) posted a pic of a D20's s/n which would have made it #1 built in Oxnard. Apparently the "pilot build", and thinking of it that way might make sense if they planned to build more dreads than parlors.

It occurs to me Oxnard's been more than a bit a bit opaque about a lot of stuff.
 
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I thought that too, that the M20 was absolutely the first model brought to market ("just like in Westerly"), but got surprised in the last year or so when somebody (@GGJaguar , I think?) posted a pic of that D20's s/n which would have made it #1 built in in Oxnard. Apparently the "pilot build", and thinking of it that way might make sense if they planned to build more dreads than parlors.

It occurs to me Oxnard's been more than a bit a bit opaque about a lot of stuff.
The guitar in the video is a D40. The first guitars to market from Oxnard were the “entry level” M20 and D20. D40 production came later as I understand it. That’s why I found it interesting that the D40 in the vid has the serial C000001.
 

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The guitar in the video is a D40. The first guitars to market from Oxnard were the “entry level” M20 and D20. D40 production came later as I understand it. That’s why I found it interesting that the D40 in the vid has the serial C000001.
Yep, uncorrected typo, had "D20" on brain, thanks, fixed.
 

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That’s why I found it interesting that the D40 in the vid has the serial C000001.
It's weird because the D-40 was introduced in 2016 along with the D-20 and M-20, but the video showing that serial number is from January 2017. Guild also showed it on their web page in Jan 2017.

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As mentioned, the first production guitar shipped from Oxnard was the D-20 with C160001.
M-20 and D-20 were produced in parallel, the first M-20 and D-20 were shipped out of Oxnard to Chicago Music Exchange in April 2016. I don't know the first M-20 serial number. (I simply have not watched them at dealers to check the serials.)

I have no real good idea why that D-40 got such C000001 serial number. As "00" is no year I simply would assume it was the first D-40 prototype. (It is not the one displayed at NAMM 2017 and also not the one which they used for stock pictures.)

Also note that the laser burned number plate uses a different font and narrower logo compared to the production plates (lines are exchanged). That all points prototype.

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And the latest production guitars, here from 2024 use all bold font for the first two lines:

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As mentioned, the first production guitar shipped from Oxnard was the D-20 with C160001.
M-20 and D-20 were produced in parallel, the first M-20 and D-20 were shipped out of Oxnard to Chicago Music Exchange in April 2016. I don't know the first M-20 serial number. (I simply have not watched them at dealers to check the serials.)

I have no real good idea why that D-40 got such C000001 serial number. As "00" is no year I simply would assume it was the first D-40 prototype. (It is not the one displayed at NAMM 2017 and also not the one which they used for stock pictures.)

Also note that the laser burned number plate uses a different font compared to the production plates (lines are exchanged). That all points prototype.

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I wonder if Hans is having "fun" with all this?
 

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I wonder if he cares much about Oxnard (or NH or Tacoma for that matter). I thought his interest ended with the Corona facility.
I wondered that a few years back myself, but Ralf confirmed he was still paying attention through NH at least. IIRC he had a good relationship w/ Fender, but wouldn't surprise me if Cordoba's been less than enthusiastic with research assistance.
 
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