geoguy
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My wife is a psychiatric nurse . . . there are many meds available nowadays, for people who suffer delusions like this . . . 8)
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Nice D-25, but I'd say he's high
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taabru45
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I think he's a little high, like over the moon. I bought my 77 Guild F 50R for less than that....new! with a case too....so it should be worth maybe about $7500. ? Steffan :lol:
fungusyoung
Senior Member
This guy is a tool. I contacted him trying to be helpful (based on his good feedback) to let him know that this was a very nice D25, but nowhere near worth what he had it listed at... indicating I was confused by how he arrived at that price. I also told him it's not from the 70's & provided the Guild site dating link. He responded by saying a true collector would know what it's worth, etc. The one thing from his add that really irks me is that he's saying it's in museum grade condition, but he only has one photo of the top & it's from a distance. There looks to be some wear around the soundhole, but who knows... one thing I'm sure is that this is certainly NOT in "mint" condition, and the ad is inaccurate on many levels beyond the absolutely ludicrous asking price. Pretty strange he wouldn't show many more or close-up photos of the burst especially since he took the time to shoot a closeup of the Guild label inside the soundhole!
hansmoust
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GardMan said:
Hi folks,
The D-25 SB in question is from the end of 1981. At that time the retail price for a D-25 with a sunburst top was $ 545.00. The better hard case with plush lining would have been an extra $ 135.00.
The last retail price for a D-25SB from Westerly was $ 1249.99 and that was around the closing of the plant in 2001. A hardshell case was included in that price.
Sincerely,
Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl
lcjones
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I'm always leery when some one ebay's a guitar as "very rare" and "vintage museum quality". Not that I'm a cynic. :mrgreen: 2300.00 is, in my most humble opine, way out of line. Yes, the SB's may be less plentiful than the naturals or cherry's but that does not justify 1000 to 1200 dollars over what I think most reasonably priced D25's in good if not great shape can fetch in today's market. If there we some remarkable proven history, that might increase the value as a collectors item.
And while I wasn't there, $1499.00 for a D25 in 1974 doesn't sound kosher to me. My '74 Cherry D25 #101416 new off the wall bracket, including hard shell case was $400.00. And that from Blue Eagle Music in Athens, Ohio, a Guild dealer at the time. I'm not saying his Aunt didn't pay that much for it. I'm just saying that seems *way* beyond the value of the day for a D25.
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I'm always leery when some one ebay's a guitar as "very rare" and "vintage museum quality". Not that I'm a cynic. :mrgreen: 2300.00 is, in my most humble opine, way out of line. Yes, the SB's may be less plentiful than the naturals or cherry's but that does not justify 1000 to 1200 dollars over what I think most reasonably priced D25's in good if not great shape can fetch in today's market. If there we some remarkable proven history, that might increase the value as a collectors item.
And while I wasn't there, $1499.00 for a D25 in 1974 doesn't sound kosher to me. My '74 Cherry D25 #101416 new off the wall bracket, including hard shell case was $400.00. And that from Blue Eagle Music in Athens, Ohio, a Guild dealer at the time. I'm not saying his Aunt didn't pay that much for it. I'm just saying that seems *way* beyond the value of the day for a D25.
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taabru45
Enlightened Member
You could get a new Guild F50 R for something over one thousand..in 77 I think mine was around $1200. :lol: Steffan
Dr. Spivey
Senior Member
Here's the pricelist from 1986.http://www.westerlyguildguitars.com/files/86PL2.jpg
thanks, Dr., see - Guilds have always been affordable! 
And that price included the hardshell case.
Ten years earlier I got mine new for 300 clams.
And that price included the hardshell case.Ten years earlier I got mine new for 300 clams.
taabru45
Enlightened Member
I'd like to see that Mini Manhattan 170 thats listed there.... Steffan
Steffan
Tool alert!fungusyoung said:
Honestly, it's fine for this person to defend his/her price, but that was a pedantic, dismissive answer. And, I agree that a a guitar claimed to be in pristine condition with such a price needs a lot of pictures to verify that. I certainly wouldn't just trust the seller on his/her word.
That price is ridiculous, by the way.
bek
Junior Member
I guess I was REAL lucky trading in a cheapo flattop and $400 cash for mine, then. The shop owner was a friend of a friend, but I guess I didn't fully appreciate the $1000 discount. I might sell mine for that much money, but I'd have to think twice. Probably wouldn't get that much money, since it's not the special SN series (!!).
taabru45
Enlightened Member
Now here is a real 74...and a rare one at that, all mahogany, Still a bit steep but maybe they are trying to discourage/encourage Graham, as it is in his neighborhood. :lol: Steffan
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/1287295630.html
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/1287295630.html
taabru45
Enlightened Member
http://ventura.craigslist.org/msg/1288250288.html
Makes you go hmmmmm.....same seller trying to make $1800 seem like a bargain :?: :roll: Steffan
Makes you go hmmmmm.....same seller trying to make $1800 seem like a bargain :?: :roll: Steffan
fungusyoung
Senior Member
taabru45 said:
I'm not sure if it's the same seller or someone else trying to make double what the guitar is worth just because of this clown on Ebay's listing price. By the way, hilarious new comments on that auction:
Q: Would you consider shipping to the U.K? Also the serial number in your ad would suggest the guitar was built in the early 80's, can you confirm the serial number please? Jul-24-09
A: this guitar is archived in guild archives . on the neck as well as the tag it shows it as a 1974 guild d-25 the numbers are listed on page 4 of 15 in guild .html. year produced from 1970 to 1979. 5th year no# are 95497 to 112803 {1974} the serial no# is also pictured on the neck as well as the tag. if you cant read them they are {DA 108564} I HAVE ALL THE RECORDS ON THIS GUITAR {1974}. THIS GUITAR IS LISTED IN THE GUITAR GUILD BOOKS , BY HANS MOUST, AND GRUHNS GUIDE ON VINTAGE GUITARS BY GEORGE GRUHN. EXCELLANT ,ACCURATE APPRAISEL BOOKS. I DO PREFFER GOING DIRECTLY TO THE GUILD ARCHIVES FOR MY DATA. WITH THIS GUITAR I WILL SEND THE FULL 15 PAGE DOCUMENTION RECORDS OF GUILD GUITARS SERIAL NO#. FROM 1952 TO 1999 I HAVE HAD OTHER QUESTIONS ASKED FROM WANNA BE GUITAR PLAYERS THAT THINK THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BUY, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTION AT HAND. YOU KNOW HOW THEY ARE. TRYING TO BUY A VINTAGE MASTERPIECE FOR SOMETHING THEY PLAY FROM WALMART. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. THIS GUITAR IS EXACTLY AS I HAVE IT LISTED.
mole2
Junior Member
fungusyoung said:
In 1978 I paid approximately $350 for mine with the case. I have the original receipt but it's still packed away from my moving in mid April.
stclrob
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stclrob
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Back to reality. I guess non-original tuners knocks the price down a bit.
killdeer43
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This one is just like mine, but according to the SN, it's 3,419 units later. They must have been cranking out the D25s in '79! :!:stclrob said:
Joe
tjmangum
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This one here is a steal then
http://houston.craigslist.org/msg/1279624508.html
Pretty looking. I'm tempted to contact the guy since I'm in Houston for the next few days, but my experience is that once someone gets fixed on an unrealistic price, they never come down. They don't know what they have but they are afraid you are out to "steal" it from them. Mentally I think they already spent the money.
A couple of weeks ago my wife and I were at a big Antique show in Portland and this guy had a very neat looking 1920's Bacon Day tenor banjo. He wanted a premium price for it. I picked it up to play it, but the action was messed up, in that the strings were right on top of the frets. Neck looked straight, but the angle or the bridge were for sure not right.
The guy runs over and tells me, "I just had that looked at by an expert and he said it was perfect!"
I told him, no it was not perfect and not even playable, let me show you. He looked at me and said, "What are you doing to it?" I told him, see you can't even get a banjo sound out of it.
He said, "I don't know anything about banjos, but I was told by an expert it was perfect and ready to play. I can get my full price on ebay, but I don't want to screw around with shipping it".
I told him I knew a bit about banjos and other stringed instruments and no it was not perfect and not worth what he was asking. He kind of grunted and I walked away.
My wife wasn't with me, so later when I caught up with her, I told her about the guy with the banjo and we decided she would try the same message with him.
She went over and started looking at it and the guy told her, "Please don't touch that lady, its an expensive instrument." She told him she might be interested in buying it. He relented and let her pick it up. She did the same thing I did as far as looking at the neck and action and trying to play it. He told her about his expert and she told him his expert must not be too good, because it was not in "perfect" condition ( note there were also a few finish issues too)
She offered him 50 cents on the dollar, which he of course refused saying he "had to get" his price.
Anyway, these people never seem to want to listen and seem almost afraid to seek out a true unbiased opinion.
tj
http://houston.craigslist.org/msg/1279624508.html
Pretty looking. I'm tempted to contact the guy since I'm in Houston for the next few days, but my experience is that once someone gets fixed on an unrealistic price, they never come down. They don't know what they have but they are afraid you are out to "steal" it from them. Mentally I think they already spent the money.
A couple of weeks ago my wife and I were at a big Antique show in Portland and this guy had a very neat looking 1920's Bacon Day tenor banjo. He wanted a premium price for it. I picked it up to play it, but the action was messed up, in that the strings were right on top of the frets. Neck looked straight, but the angle or the bridge were for sure not right.
The guy runs over and tells me, "I just had that looked at by an expert and he said it was perfect!"
I told him, no it was not perfect and not even playable, let me show you. He looked at me and said, "What are you doing to it?" I told him, see you can't even get a banjo sound out of it.
He said, "I don't know anything about banjos, but I was told by an expert it was perfect and ready to play. I can get my full price on ebay, but I don't want to screw around with shipping it".
I told him I knew a bit about banjos and other stringed instruments and no it was not perfect and not worth what he was asking. He kind of grunted and I walked away.
My wife wasn't with me, so later when I caught up with her, I told her about the guy with the banjo and we decided she would try the same message with him.
She went over and started looking at it and the guy told her, "Please don't touch that lady, its an expensive instrument." She told him she might be interested in buying it. He relented and let her pick it up. She did the same thing I did as far as looking at the neck and action and trying to play it. He told her about his expert and she told him his expert must not be too good, because it was not in "perfect" condition ( note there were also a few finish issues too)
She offered him 50 cents on the dollar, which he of course refused saying he "had to get" his price.
Anyway, these people never seem to want to listen and seem almost afraid to seek out a true unbiased opinion.
tj