I’ve been wanting a Guild 12 string since I was younger and now the day has finally come. I’m having a bit of trouble dating it so any help would be much appreciated. So far I’d guess it’s a 72 or 73.
My first Guild “F-112”
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Congrats! Looks really nice! It's a '73. Enjoy!
SFIV1967
Venerated Member
Welcome to LTG! Wonderful guitar!
By the way, the Truss Rod Cover is mounted upside down! Easy fix.
The correct way for Guild is this as it resembles a heraldic shield:
I don't have a 1973 catalog, here is the 1971 one:
Ralf
By the way, the Truss Rod Cover is mounted upside down! Easy fix.
The correct way for Guild is this as it resembles a heraldic shield:
I don't have a 1973 catalog, here is the 1971 one:
Ralf
Cougar
Enlightened Member
Welcome to the boards and the Guild 12-string club, Alex! That is one oldie but a goodie! Looks to be in fine shape for a half-century-old guitar!
Thank you, and I shall
Thank you!
Thank you! I guess that means the truss rods were possibly adjusted at some point.Welcome to LTG! Wonderful guitar!
By the way, the Truss Rod Cover is mounted upside down! Easy fix.
The correct way for Guild is this as it resembles a heraldic shield:
I don't have a 1973 catalog, here is the 1971 one:
Ralf
Thank you! Indeed it is.
Thank you! I still need to buy new strings, but so far the sound is undeniable.
Guildedagain
Enlightened Member
We've all gone through that haven't we?
One of life's conditions, and there is a support group.
This is mine, got it when the getting was good, and it's very early, numerically the 13th F112 made at Hoboken in 1968, which is absolutely fantastic unless you have Triskaidekaphobia usually leading to Paraskevidekatriaphobia (sometimes called Friggatriskaidekaphobia).
OA113
This was the day I got it, that was a very good day, when I opened the shipping box and saw the snakeskin tolex the seller never mentioned.
No case queen here, buckle rash by someone wearing guitar fairly high up.
And the neck angle was good.
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Guildedagain
Enlightened Member
If it's a victim of abuse and the metal ear holding the shaft is distorted, tapping it with very small (appropriate )hammer could tighten the tuner back up.
Best not to change them, unless replacing with same vintage but in better shape.
Not to say that you couldn't install other tuners, Mini Grovers if they fit, more precise but heavier, or there may be a Stewart McDonald alternative.
Putting 18 Grovers in a guitar, 12 string fever summer 2016 when I joined the forum.
Best not to change them, unless replacing with same vintage but in better shape.
Not to say that you couldn't install other tuners, Mini Grovers if they fit, more precise but heavier, or there may be a Stewart McDonald alternative.
Putting 18 Grovers in a guitar, 12 string fever summer 2016 when I joined the forum.
Br1ck
Senior Member
F 112 is my favorite of the bunch.
A few taps with a small hammer and it’s perfectly snug again, thank you!If it's a victim of abuse and the metal ear holding the shaft is distorted, tapping it with very small (appropriate )hammer could tighten the tuner back up.
Best not to change them, unless replacing with same vintage but in better shape.
Not to say that you couldn't install other tuners, Mini Grovers if they fit, more precise but heavier, or there may be a Stewart McDonald alternative.
Putting 18 Grovers in a guitar, 12 string fever summer 2016 when I joined the forum.
Guildedagain
Enlightened Member
Obviously the right hammer, and punch if needed is the key. Not to break anything, the hippocratic oath, per Hippocrates "Do no harm to your guitar while repairing it."
I've never really analyzed mine to see what all was happening, but I remember some being crazy tight, just something to live with, part of the antique charm.
After playing old guitars with worn tuners for decades, you just live with tuners issues, you expect them, it feels weird if you don't have them.
Tons of character, real chimey, a little light on bass but the playability is supreme with really low action.
60's vintage Fender strap button, install as old.
It can be described as having Mojo, if one is inclined to such easily refutable drivel ;[]
I've never really analyzed mine to see what all was happening, but I remember some being crazy tight, just something to live with, part of the antique charm.
After playing old guitars with worn tuners for decades, you just live with tuners issues, you expect them, it feels weird if you don't have them.
Tons of character, real chimey, a little light on bass but the playability is supreme with really low action.
60's vintage Fender strap button, install as old.
It can be described as having Mojo, if one is inclined to such easily refutable drivel ;[]
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adorshki
Reverential Member
Hi Alex, welcome!
Several folks here recommend Virtuoso (not to be confused with Fabuloso):
https://virtuosopolish.com/
One wants to avoid polishes/cleaners with silicons, which most contain these days. If they penetrate under the lacquer the least potential problem is discoloration of the wood along the checking, and the worst is that the instrument becomes extremely problematic to refinish, if ever desired.
Our mod @chazmo also cited a source a while back that found silicons can penetrate the wood and deteriorate glue bonds on fretboards, for example. (Correct me if I misremembered, Chaz?) Bridges might be another potential candidate?
Of course, it may not be possible to tell if that kind of polish has ever been used on it, especially since silicons have become so prevalent. So let's just assume one wants to be as kind to the finish as possible and do no harm if none has already been done, or even if it has.
The Virtuoso products are at least silicon free, and the cleaner has very gentle abrasive properties. I'll never forget a luthier once told me the best "fine cutting" (scratch removal) abrasive was of all things, cigarette ash. The finest particles possible. Not sure how many you'd have to smoke to get enough ash to work with, though.
Pretty sure the Virtuoso stuff (I have no affiliation/interest) won't leave your axe smelling like it spent its life in a blues bar, though.
Butane (lighter fluid) is also suggested as it won't dissolve NCL. Can't recall seeing a can of lighter fluid for years though, and would check label for possibly undesirable "ingredients" anyway.
Acetone is a specific solvent for NCL, so it's a "no-no", and strong alcohols are to be avoided as well.
Nice to see you're interested in shining her up the right way! Hope that helps!
PS nice guitar! Been curious to try of those recently.
Ahhh, justrememberedonemorething (hereinafter to be acronym'd "JROMT"):
No Microfibre. Repeat, "No Microfibre." Pure cotton t-shirts only, for cleaning purposes.
The synthetic fibers in micro fiber cleaning cloths and mixed cotton/poly T's are harder than NCL and will leave "microscopic" (or even larger) scratches. (The headstock of my D25 bears witness to this).
Pure cotton is NCL's cellulose fiber base material itself, and and won't harm NCL.
Otherwise you just might have to resort to cigarette ashes. Maybe even cigars?
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