Checked old posts and have found people on both sides of the fence, but could not find anyone who A/B ed them. I recently played a 00-15 that oozed bluesy hog goodness. Very nice guitar. Never heard a M20 though...thoughts?
M20 versus 00-15
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My M20 definitely oozes bluesy hog goodness. Buddy of mine has a newer 0015, love it, great blues box also. Never a/b-ed them side by side but I prefer my M20. In all fairness, my M20 has 45 more years of playing time on it than his Martin.
My vote is that you buy them both!!! :wink: 8)
My vote is that you buy them both!!! :wink: 8)
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Words of wisdom there!BluesDan said:
When in doubt......listen to Dan and you can give us a first-hand A/B report! :wink:
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Win, win, win....hard to beat! :wink:BluesDan said:
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Hi Ridge,
Havent compared them, but I've got the all Mahoghany 00 Martin. Nice sound but I find it uncomfortable to play sitting in a normal chair, neck and shoulder get real sore after a while. It's OK when you're slouched in a sofa though. Sound wise it's OK, it's a Martin. Nowhere near a bluesbox like my old F30 though.....
Why don't you pop over and play them both, see what you think ?
Cheers, Ian
Havent compared them, but I've got the all Mahoghany 00 Martin. Nice sound but I find it uncomfortable to play sitting in a normal chair, neck and shoulder get real sore after a while. It's OK when you're slouched in a sofa though. Sound wise it's OK, it's a Martin. Nowhere near a bluesbox like my old F30 though.....
Why don't you pop over and play them both, see what you think ?
Cheers, Ian
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Ian,guitardude said:
Speaking of your F30, you list it in your signature as a "70ish" model. Does it have a serial number? You could certainly narrow it down to the year....if you wish to, that is. :wink:
Curious,
Joe
My local shop had several 0015's & I had the opportunity to AB one with my F20. Totally different guitars, my F20 is maple & has a 1 5/8" fretboard. The fretboard on the 0015 was more user friendly & it is a little bit bigger,
Practical reality is the 0015 is likely more versatile, however I drove home with my F20 & a smile on my face.
Practical reality is the 0015 is likely more versatile, however I drove home with my F20 & a smile on my face.
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I owned a 00-15 for a while, sold it to one of my students, and kinda wishin' I still had it. Had a great tone, but those are sort of dime-a-dozen, along with the 000-15. I don't hear guitarists singing the praises of these nice puppies as much as I do about the Guild M-20.
I have yet to play one, and if I do, will be tempted to buy it. They go for about triple what a new or used Martin 00-15, or 000-15 will go for. 'Course I am talking about the old Guild M-20s, from the old Westerly factory.
The new ones, from China, they are okay . . . but don't have the vintage vibe and the dusty old sound that their '50s and '60s counterparts do.
I have yet to play one, and if I do, will be tempted to buy it. They go for about triple what a new or used Martin 00-15, or 000-15 will go for. 'Course I am talking about the old Guild M-20s, from the old Westerly factory.
The new ones, from China, they are okay . . . but don't have the vintage vibe and the dusty old sound that their '50s and '60s counterparts do.
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I haven't a/bed them, but have played both the 00-15 and the new GAD M20. I like both, but, sorry to say here, I think the 00-15 has a great deal more richness and complexity than the GAD M20 (and I really, really like many of the GADs--I own a GAD 30). The Martin's just got much more going on, on the bottom end in particular.
As for a "real," vintage M20--that's a different story, perhaps.
Best of luck in your search, Rick
As for a "real," vintage M20--that's a different story, perhaps.
Best of luck in your search, Rick
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When I listen to Nick Drake play his M20........I LOVE that sound! ( Not just HIM and his Music....but THAT PARTICULAR GUITAR) and the way it is recorded ( especialy his last 2 albums) you REALLY get a sence of what that instrument can...and DOES do. Yea..........the older ( Westerly) M20s are pretty well renoun...and from all I hear, for very good reason. SG
PS.....from what ive READ, the Martins have the sound more in line with the old Westerly M20's. i think the new ones are a different matter altogether.
PS.....from what ive READ, the Martins have the sound more in line with the old Westerly M20's. i think the new ones are a different matter altogether.
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There's a can of worms waiting to be opened! :lol: :shock: :roll: 8)southernGuild said:
Joe
Yeah, I am not too keen on the new GAD M20s. I am sure they are very playable and sound fine (a GAD F20 I tried sure does!) but I just can't get into them. For starters, the striped mahogany the GADs have isn't my favorite when it comes to a hog top.
http://austin.craigslist.org/msg/1506872699.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/msg/1506872699.html
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Becareful of what you wish for! :lol: :lol:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/msg/1514654882.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/msg/1508447881.html
Hogsters! 8)
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/msg/1514654882.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/msg/1508447881.html
Hogsters! 8)
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I played one at a local dealer and it didn't 'speak' to me with that Guild vibe, with either the look or the sound. I don't really care where it was made, it just didn't do it.Ridgemont said:
As you alluded, that 'striped mahogany' wasn't exactly a turn-on.
I guess I just don't have GAD GAS! :wink:
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Treem...thou art the 'finder of things!' Looks like a NICE M20 out there..........Lotta dough though. Oh well, IF I had one, it would take alot for me to part with it. If AT ALL!
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All I can say is that I LOVE my M-20 and after all it was a LTG group project acquisition...but it's not Westerly, it's Hoboken.
Tom Jutz (Nanci Griffith's Blue Moon Orchestra)
and Janis Ian loved it too
now if I could just play it as well as they do...guess I'll have to practice some more. It really is an amazing guitar, I can't thank you guys enough for helping me get it. jm
Tom Jutz (Nanci Griffith's Blue Moon Orchestra)
and Janis Ian loved it too
now if I could just play it as well as they do...guess I'll have to practice some more. It really is an amazing guitar, I can't thank you guys enough for helping me get it. jm
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I'll never tire of seeing your M20. I'll be very happy to find one of my own, so thanks for reminding me. :wink:
Joe
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killdeer43 said:
Joe any ole time you want to come on down and give her a play just let me know (it seems to me someone mentioned before that since this was a group LTG project we should have shared custody).