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Yellow Submarine, still a song I cannot stand and hope to never hear it again. The Beatles have a few of those songs, as do many artists I am sure.
Yep I can recall being "OK" with it as a kid and in fact all the sound effects were pretty revolutionary in a pop single at the time (undoubtedly an artifact George Martin's previous work in radio production with sound effects).
But "Hey Dude", er, Jude, marked the first time I heard a Beatles song and was actually repulsed.
"Long and Winding Road" was even worse.
So yeah every band has a few clinkers, to somebody....
I even have to admit I never liked "Imagine", either, and John was my hero!.
At least there was other really good stuff on the album like "How Do You Sleep?" and "Gimme Some Truth"
 

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IMO Revolver is the finest overall collection of songs the Beatles released. Pepper, while maybe a victim of earlier over-praise in that folks now tend to downplay it, is still IMO their finest album.
A valid distinction, and yeah, "Lane" and "Fields" were cut during Pepper's sessions but do somehow seem a little "different" from the rest of the material, I can see why they were left out.
It's interesting that they do seem to fit better on Mystery Tour.
I think "Lady Madonna" was actually the first Beatles single I ever bought.
 

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Yep I can recall being "OK" with it as a kid and in fact all the sound effects were pretty revolutionary in a pop single at the time (undoubtedly an artifact George Martin's previous work in radio production with sound effects).
But "Hey Dude", er, Jude, marked the first time I heard a Beatles song and was actually repulsed.
"Long and Winding Road" was even worse.
So yeah every band has a few clinkers, to somebody....
I even have to admit I never liked "Imagine", either, and John was my hero!.
At least there was other really good stuff on the album like "How Do You Sleep?" and "Gimme Some Truth"

Come to think of it Al, I don't have a favorite Beatles song. Something wrong about that...like unAmerican :) No, maybe un-human.
 

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Hey, that's a New Hartford D-55!!
How can you tell it's an NH (even though it would seem the most likely), what am I missing?
Just the style of the burst?
And yeah, Dhani's no slouch either, as others have mentioned elsewhere.
 

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Come to think of it Al, I don't have a favorite Beatles song. Something wrong about that...like unAmerican :) No, maybe un-human.
Naaah... I don't have a top favorite either although "Tomorrow Never Knows" may come close, but there's maybe about 10 between John and George I couldn't live without.
A lot of that's based on what they represented to "my generation" and being there as each new single hit the airwaves.
 

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Don't forget the singles "with" Revolver were "Paperback Writer" and "Rain". Very heavy stuff!

And "Helter Skelter" was The Beatles' attempt to "out-Who" The Who, so musical influences worked both ways.

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And "Helter Skelter" was The Beatles' attempt to "out-Who" The Who, so musical influences worked both ways.

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Interesting, I had no idea! That is a great tune...I would argue they out-Who'd them.
 

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Naaah... I don't have a top favorite either although "Tomorrow Never Knows" may come close, but there's maybe about 10 between John and George I couldn't live without.
A lot of that's based on what they represented to "my generation" and being there as each new single hit the airwaves.

"A Day in the Life" for me--amazing blend of John and Paul as they were in 1967. There's so much I love, though, and so little I dislike.
 

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Don't forget the singles "with" Revolver were "Paperback Writer" and "Rain". Very heavy stuff!
And "Helter Skelter" was The Beatles' attempt to "out-Who" The Who, so musical influences worked both ways.
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"Paperback Writer" and "Daytripper" were actually recorded during the Soul sessions (see my comments above about the Martin/Epstein "release schedule" and along with "Rain" are also some of my favorites , but what I was trying to say was that the schedule disintegrated after Revolver.
And don't remember hearing that about Helter Skelter either but it's one of those "10" on "the White Album" for me.
What's funny is that I do have a lot of love for the Who, and I could pick one absolute favorite of theirs above all the others, it'd be "I Can See For Miles".
The only complaint I ever had about "Live At Leeds" was that they didn't include it on there, but I don't think it was part of the set list at the time. It was basically the Tommy promo tour.
Has deservedly been nominated as the best live rock album of all time, though, and I'd tend to agree, only a couple of close seconds like Allman Brothers at Fillmore East and Bless It's Pointed Little Head
Another influence we tend to overlook is the Kinks, "You really Got Me" and "All Day (and All of the Night)", maybe because they were banned from touring here in '65 and lost a lot of ground here.
Coupla Wiki excerpts:
"There were only a few bands that had this sorta really rough-sounding, what we used to call 'R&B' style in the Sixties. There were the Yardbirds, there was us, there was the Pretty Things, as well."
—Dave Davies, interview with the Austin Chronicle
(He's talking about the '64-'66 period.)
"And while much has been made of the Beatles' 'Norwegian Wood' because it was the first pop record to use a sitar, it was recorded well after the Kinks' clearly Indian 'See My Friends' was released."[41] Pete Townshend of the Who was particularly affected by the song: "'See My Friends' was the next time I pricked up my ears and thought, 'God, he's done it again. He's invented something new.'
I'd submit that while the bass on "My Generation" was revolutionary, overall Pete was more "jangly" than "crunchy" up until "...Miles"
While we got a different picture in the US, the most serious domestic competition for the Beatles from '65-'66 was actually the Yardbirds and then the Stones.
The Stones didn't actually come on really strong until "Satisfaction" in late '65.
Here in the US the Byrds were just starting to displace surf music.
I mean, when I was 9 it was still cool to be able to mimic the drum solo to "Wipeout". :biggrin-new:
Although there was a high-school garage band next door practicing Beatles tunes.
Also let's not forget that in England they didn't have "Commercial radio" like we do in the US.
Legitimate BBC exposure was limited to Ready Steady GO TV show and Top of the Pops.
Many bands's street creds were established by ship-based offshore stations known as "pirate radio".
 
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And now, it was 51 years ago today that Peter Sellers arrived on the set of HELP to give the Beatles their Grammy award for "A Hard Day's Night".
See what else they were nominated for and who they lost out to, to get a real nostalgic look back at the state of pop music in 1964, which in fact really wasn't too bad:
http://www.beatlesbible.com/1965/04/28/filming-help-45/
 

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And now, it was 51 years ago today that Peter Sellers arrived on the set of HELP to give the Beatles their Grammy award for "A Hard Day's Night".
See what else they were nominated for and who they lost out to, to get a real nostalgic look back at the state of pop music in 1964, which in fact really wasn't too bad:
http://www.beatlesbible.com/1965/04/28/filming-help-45/

Well, you can't argue against the musical genius of Mary Poppins.

My kids must have watched a VHS tape of that movie about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001 times!
 

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Well, you can't argue against the musical genius of Mary Poppins.

My kids must have watched a VHS tape of that movie about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001 times!

I got hooked after hearing what Coltrane did with "My Favorite Things", and arranged a version of "Chim Chim Cheree" with a bridge in 6/8 swing time a few years later.
 
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