Introduction - New Guy Here - "Scottdog"

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Brad Little said:
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Wooden boats????????? :D
Yeah, you know, pre-Ovation boats :D
Brad
Oh. I thought you might be referring to another project I've been playing around with.

I little something my grandfather bought new in 1942.

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1942 Thompson TVT Deluxe Speedster
 

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Welcome.

Nice axes and bike.

I've had a great deal of success with removing neck grime. I use the 'Guitar finish restore plus' (blue label). I bought it from http://www.guitarscratchremover.com/
You really have to work it, but it makes the back of the neck like new (unless there is a finish issue of course).

It is great for restoring older guitars. It will remove most scratches as well. Follow it up with a polish. I have used the Red label polish from guitarscratchremover.com, but I prefer the Fender labelled products from Meguires.

http://elderly.com/accessories/items/F0508.htm

Best of luck.

Bobby.
 

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Scott,

Welcome. That boat is quite a project, but I love those old wooden ones. That'll be magnificent.

Wow, that Indian is quite something.

I see you enjoy your transportation. :)

I go for the less fancy, 4-wheeled variety ;):

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Very cool, Chaz......

Working on the boat, you can't help but relate it to a guitar.
The way the wood resonates when you thump the deck.
And, for being made out of mahogany and cedar, the
fact that it only weighs 200 lbs. amazes me.
Gotta figure the screws alone weigh
at least 50.

Imagine being able to crawl inside your guitar.
Imagine what you would see?

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Welcome Scottdog all the way from NZ,

I'm sure coastie will pop along later with some good advice, I've found my old F30 gets sticky on the neck, I just rub it down before and after with a soft cloth, seems to work OK. In truth it probably needs a complete refinish but....

Nice choice in Motorbikes and boats !! Of course NZ has something of a special relationship with Indian motorcycles.

Your nice comments about the Ovation are appreciated too !!

Cheers, Ian
 

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Here's one for you, guitardude.

A few years back or so, I was cordially invited to a little soirée out on the left coast.
One condition..... must be riding an Indian motorcycle. So I flew out there and
a buddy of mine let me borrow one of his bikes. After we got to the party
they walked us down this carpet way (yes, it was red) to a movie
theater to watch this movie that was just getting released.

Maybe you heard of it?

It was called,......... "The World's Fastest Indian" :)

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Later at the party, this old guy there says to me, "No, no, no, just call me Tony"........

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I hang with a little group of folks (Iron Indian Riders Assoc.) spread all around the world.
Never know what's going to happen next. Usually a trip out to someones
home to fix their motorcycles. Something else I love to do.
 

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Hey that looks way cool !! I take it you're planning a trip to Invercargill soon then ? :lol:

Cheers, Ian
 

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Why, Burt made his mark in Wendover, Utah, not Invercargill. :lol:

Besides, it hasn't stopped raining there in about seven years. :D
 

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That's wicked cool, Scott. Thanks for sharing the pictures with us. I enjoyed that movie, by the way!
 

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Hello Scottdog, and welcome.

Here's the link to the thread re. cleaning my F20 ............ http://www.letstalkguild.com/phpBB2/vie ... ap#p127908

Best of luck; it's a bugger of a job !!
Thanks Coastie.... Thanks for the welcome and the info.
Looks like you had quite a battle with your finish.
Came out nice in the end.

My issue is not as severe but I am going to try the sugar soap (aka, Trisodium Phosphate).
Sounded like OxiClean but after a little research, it's not the same.

Reminded of a truck I had in my garage once where the owner's pissed off girl friend dumped a bottle of corn syrup
in the fuel tank. Trying to flush out the fuel system, nothing would move that crap. Used chemicals that
would peel paint off of anything. In the end, water was the answer. Plain old H2O. I made some
fittings so I could connect a garden hose up to the different components of the fuel system
and flushed them right out. Hooked the hose up to the fuel injectors and jumped power
to them until they sprayed a fine mist and Voilà! Same with the fuel pump.
Stuck it in a bucket and put power to it. Didn't have to replace a
single part other than the fuel filter. Job well done.


FYI - If you ever are a victim of a "sugar in the gas tank" job and the repair
shop tells you the whole fuel system has to be replaced. Take it someplace else.


Ok, ok, back to the subject at hand.........

On top of removing the grunge I also would like to maybe wet sand the finish and buff it out.
Looks like the lacquer melted or something on the back in a spot. Hard to say.
Part of the fun is wondering, with all the singing they do,
what some of the old instruments would
say if they would just talk.
 

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Well, I cleaned the guitar with some TSP (trisodium phosphate, aka., sugar soap) and the finish is now undoubtedly clean.
Now I need to do some wet sanding where the finish looks like it had reacted to something in the past.
Looks like it melted in a few small spots. then some buffing and polishing and I'll be happy.
Again, I have no issue with the "battle scars" and the checking but I would
like to bring back the shine some.

I greatly appreciate all your help and advice.
One mighty fine forum ya'll got going here.
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All of the suggestions are valid. Instead of the Meguiar's Deep Crystal, see if you can get Meguiar's Mirror Glaze products, in your case the #2. The Deep Crystal line is for consumers, the Mirror Glaze line is for professionals/body shops, and it is paintable, which means it has no silicones in it. I don't know if the Deep Crystal does or does not contain silicones.

It sounds like some previous owner had "acidic hands", which is softening up the lacquer on the back of the neck. The above steps should address the problem if it hasn't gotten through the entire lacquer layer. If it has, you may be looking at having the neck refinished; not an impossible task, its just going to take some cash.

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After reading this thread, I have noticed that the neck on my 2005 D-55 does the same thing.
It always feels sticky or tacky.
I wipe it down and it's good for a song or 2 and then it's tacky again.
I have wiped it down with naptha and it gets a little better for a short time and then it's back.
Now I'm wondering if it is the finish doing this.
It's the only guitar out of 6 that I have that does this. [It's the only Guild]
I do have acidic hands because I go through strings in less than 10 hours of playing time.
I would think that a guitar that's 5 years old should no longer have issues from new lacquer that's not dry yet.
 

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Sometimes, depending on a person's body chemistry, acidic hands (actually sweat) can soften the lacquer on the back of guitar necks. This is completely dependent on the person's body chemistry. I have bought guitars before with this problem, and in my case, my luthier buddy directed me to taks something made of a semi-rigid, but not sharp, plastic (I used a cut up credit card), and scrape off the grunge. In my case, after doing all of that, there was enough thinkness of lacquer for him to polish out. He did tell me that if the lacquer was deteriorated all the way through that he would have to refinish the neck. What is going on in the neck, is what also sometimes what happens to the lacquer under the right arm area when people with acidic sweat play with short sleeves. It not only wears away at the lacquer, it can almost "burn" the lacquer off. It is just body chemistry, not much you can do about it. I have met players with hands/sweat that is so acidic it can take less than 3 hours of playing for the strings to go dead. While it can be a lacquer issue, the lacquer must have been hard enough to polish out, so it probably wasn't a lacquer issue. Was this a used guitar, or is this the guitar you play most often? Is this the only nitro finished guitar that you own?

The poly- type finishes seem to resist this a lot better; Elixir strings will probably last longer as well for players whose body chemistry is this way. I personally don't really like the tone of the Elixers (regular Polyweb or Nanoweb), but don't have the acidic sweat issue.

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TMG, have you tried putting guitar polish on the neck? Does that help or does it immediately get tacky?
 

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Scottdog said:
Imagine being able to crawl inside your guitar.
Imagine what you would see?

1942_thompson_010.jpg
Oh WE've got some guys here that do that, too! Welcome Aboard Scottdog!
 

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Scottdog said:
adorshki said:
Scottdog said:
Imagine being able to crawl inside your guitar.
Imagine what you would see?
Oh WE've got some guys here that do that, too! Welcome Aboard Scottdog!
Crawl inside guitars or work on wooden boats?
Crawl inside their guitars, figuratively speaking... :lol:
In my sympathy for newbies just starting to find their way around here, here's a couple of threads:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16601
That one's got leads about finish work in Connecticut
AND:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16967
That one's got live inside shots!
This is a great place you're gonna love it!
 
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