Guild X150 D info needed!!

[NYWolf]

This was on ebay for a while now, and something tells me the seller got the specs wrong. I mean it can't be 25.5 scale now can it? Also weight almost 7.9 seems too heavy for a hollowbody, no? But then again, I can be wrong... That's why I'm fishing for some info here, where else, and hopefully someone here has the same model and would chime in. My main questions are about neck: how's it feels regarding width, profile, radius? Any comments are welcome, thanks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-GUILD-X150-D-SAVOY-AMAZING-HOLLOWBODY-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-WITH-CASE-/281549662578?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:US:1120

 

[Neal]

Well, I suddenly find myself qualified to answer your question, given that I bought a '99 X-150 just last week.

Not sure about the weight, but it does not strike me as any heavier than my jumbo F-50. Mine has only one pick-up, however. Can't be any heavier than 6 pounds.

And the scale is 24.75. That I know for sure.

Super guitar, especially with flatwound strings on it.

Neal

 

[NYWolf]

Well, I suddenly find myself qualified to answer your question, given that I bought a '99 X-150 just last week.

Not sure about the weight, but it does not strike me as any heavier than my jumbo F-50. Mine has only one pick-up, however. Can't be any heavier than 6 pounds.

And the scale is 24.75. That I know for sure.

Super guitar, especially with flatwound strings on it.

Neal

Thank you Neal, great stuff!

I just saw your thread NGD, looks great, it's a Westerly made one too, right? Can you tell me about the neck feel, is it wide or narrow by feel? Or radius, if you can tell. I'm specifically looking for narrow necks with medium-thick profile, 9.5 radius, just my preference. I have 98' Starfire that I can't play comfortably because the neck feels too wide and flat, but nevertheless sound really awesome.

The guy on ebay who sells the guitar wasn't much helpful, by the way.

 

[Neal]

The neck at the nut is 1 11/16th, same as a standard Guild acoustic neck, and has the same general feel as, say, my F-47R, which I believe has a 12' radius. I initially waved it off, because I have fat fingertips and I like a lot of room between strings. But the price was right, and its condition superb, so I jumped.

It didn't take long to become adjusted to it. And as I have learned, electric necks are hard to find at 1 3/4.

You can expect it to feel like a Guild acoustic, but with the speed and action of an electric.

Neal

 

[cc_mac]

NYWolf,

The guitar in the e-Bay link is quite a looker and quite a price which might explain it's lengthy run on eBay.

Here's some data from my 2000 Westerly built X150D. You can see pics of fit in this thread

Fretboard Radius 12"
Neck depth (a little hard to measure without a profile gauge and calipers but I'd say at the 1st fret wire where the curve from the headstock ends it would be about 13/16" or 7/8" from the center of the fretboard.
I would characterize the neck profile as oval.
Neck width at the nut - 1 11/16"
Neck width at the 14th fret body joint 2 1/8"ish
E to E string spacing at the nut 1 7/16"
E to E string spacing at the bridge saddle 2 1/16"ish
There's room enough to cut a nut with slightly wider string spacing and reslot the bridge saddle a bit wider needed

Weight - I'll set it on the UPS scale at work on Monday but low 7lbs seems about right.
Body depth at the rim 3 3/8"
Body width at the lower bout 16 5/8"
(Same body dimension as X160 Rockabilly from Westerly)

Note that the later Corona, CA built X150(D) as well at the X160 Rockabilly and X180 Park Ave which share the same body are all slightly smaller at 3" X 16".

I measured and compared my 1997 Starfire II and it's fairly similar but the neck feels/looks a little different than the X150D. It's not quite as deep. For some reason the fretboard binding on the Starfire II is taller by about a 3/64" so at a glance the neck just looks thinner.

The 1969 Starfire IV has the 1 5/8" nut width and I've been playing that guitar for over 30 years and am used to it. I'd thought the neck was thicker than either of the late century guitars listed above but now wonder if it just feels thicker in relation to narrower width.

I'm going to get have to get a profile gauge and get real data to share.

 

[Sleeko]

I noticed the listing has the color as black. Looks like he mixed up the specs with another guitar. The scale should be 24.75 as Neal said. I have a Corona model and it has some weight to it. The neck has some heft as well. While I don't know the exact measurements, it is rounder and heavier than any of my other guitars. Some find the width narrow but it works fine for me. I don't think the price is unreasonable though lower is always better. LoL

 

[guildman63]

7.7 lbs is not particularly heavy considering the more modern laminate construction and built in hardware, but I would not be surprised if it is closer to 7 lbs. If you compare Westerly and Corona archtops with those from Hoboken or the newer AP models they are a little heavier, but still some of the best guitars for the money.

 

[NYWolf]

Thank you guys, great info here! The guitar does look great, and maybe if i make an offer i can get it for a more reasonable price... The neck doesnt sound like it would be my dream guitar, though... I still want 1 5/8 narrow and 9.5 radius, so I keep thinking, since Guild confirmed that they going to continue to build some electric archtops here in US, should i just wait and see what they gonna come up with? And save the money in the meantime? Decisions, decisions... What do you think?:fat:

 

[cc_mac]

A couple of thoughts
1) My X150D will be on the market this week with a special deal for LTGers such as yourself. I can almost guarantee it will be cheaper then the on listed in above.
2) If you are really committed to the 1 5/8" nut width then I'd seek out X-500s and X170s from the 80s. I'm pretty sure those still sport the narrower necks. Both of those models in that era have a small "sound-post" under the bridge. Well, all X170s do and a lot of the mid 80s to early 90s X500s are reported with one. You can see what looks like in post 20 of this thread.
3) You can hold out for Guild's new Cali factory to start spitting out guitars but I'll bet they'll be flat tops first and archtops later. I doubt the archtops will be in the Newark St price range but more like double the street price. Just my opinions, man.

 

[dklsplace]

... I still want 1 5/8 narrow and 9.5 radius, so I keep thinking, since Guild confirmed that they going to continue to build some electric archtops here in US, should i just wait and see what they gonna come up with? And save the money in the meantime? Decisions, decisions... What do you think?:fat:

Check out the CE-100's for the specs you're looking for. I've always liked the 1 5/8's as well & the CE-100D's that I've played over the years have been great. So why don't I own one you ask? Good question. But the adjustment to my X-150D wasn't hard to make.

 

[Jeff Haddad]

The price is high because it has "tons of mojo!"

It's a lovely guitar, I have an X160 built on the same structure and it is heavier than you would expect for a hollowbody, but that might be due to the Bigsby. I've never weighed it though.

 

[cc_mac]

Man, I've been trying to find an X-160 Savoy for....oh, never mind.

I put the 2000 X150D on the rather low tech scale we use at work for mail and UPS packages. It's an analog scale and I zeroed it out and it came up with about 6.5 lbs. It moved the guitar around it's balance points and waited it out and occasionally got a few ounces higher and lower but at this point I think under 7 ibs is a true statement. I'll find a digital scale with a larger platform and try and get a more accurate reading.

 

[guildman63]

Check out the CE-100's for the specs you're looking for. I've always liked the 1 5/8's as well & the CE-100D's that I've played over the years have been great. So why don't I own one you ask? Good question. But the adjustment to my X-150D wasn't hard to make.

The CE-100D may have a thin neck, but stay away from the same model from the 50's. I had one that I loved, but the neck, while extremely nice, was more like a baseball bat. I found it easy to play, but 1 5/8 it isn't.

 

[NYWolf]

The CE-100D may have a thin neck,.

That's what I found too. I only tried one , though, 1973 model if remember right. But I inquired about others that I saw on ebay, and it was always a thin neck. And they don't pop up too often, I noticed.

This week I'm gonna make a short trip to Long Island, I saw one custom made one-pickup blonde x150 from Westerly on ebay, and it's in the store not too far from where i live. See if I like it.

 

[cc_mac]

And now with a digital scale measured in US pounds and tenths.

2000 X-150D 7.1 lbs

comparative data
1969 Guild Starfire IV 8.2 lbs
(I took the Bigsby B7 off about a month ago and it weighed 12 oz so that would hit 9 lbs installed)

1997 Starfire II 6.15 lb

2013 Cordoba Fusion Rose 3.1 lbs