Guild Bert weedon guitar

[duchinho]

Hi, I recieved this guitar from my uncle , I am not 100% sure what it is and what it could be worth , I cannot find a lot of information on it , and havent found this exact model anywhere else I would really appriciate some help
Thank You
Peter

Hi, i just wanted to ask if anyone could help me try to find some info on this guitar i received it from my uncle and don't know alot about it, I do not know what it's worth and if its original, aby help would be extremely appreciated
Thank you in advance

Moderator Note: Combined two similar but not identical posts.

 

[Aristocrater]

There are several things that don't look correct, like why is "Bert" spelled wrong on the pick-guard. I think you have a poorly done replica.

 

[twocorgis]

Welcome to LTG dulchinho!

That one sure doesn't look much like the one on page 97 of Hans' bible. No master volume control, bound F holes, different looking pickups, and the misspelling on the pick guard. Something smells funny.

 

[Guildadelphia]

Something doesn't smell right for sure...the Guild Headstock logo and the Chesterfield look very fake. F holes are wrong. Appears to have a zero fret, that wouldn't be correct either. Is it a set neck or bolt-on?

 

[txbumper57]

Funny shape of the headstock, Binding and F holes look like they were done with a Paint pen, Pickup posts are wider than the fretboard itself and don't line up with the strings, and the Guild Branded tremolo looks like a bad reproduction. That on top of the misspelling of the name of the artist itself leads me to think it is a Very bad attempt at a copy of a Bert Wheedon Guild.

 

[killdeer43]

The cavalry has arrived in force so let me just add another WELCOME TO LTG!
It does look like a Guild wannabe.

Joe

 

[adorshki]

TRC's properly oriented though.
Go figure.

 

[Walter Broes]

It's an interesting piece, in a way, but it's most definitely not a Guild guitar. It looks as if somebody crudely tried to copy one from a bad photograph.

 

[wileypickett]

Hello Peter,

Welcome to LTG!

Why someone would "bootleg" this model is beyond me, and then to have gone to all that trouble but not gotten it right, is also curious. It strikes me that if it is a fake, it wasn't made as a way to fool an unsuspecting buyer. More like some hardcore Bert Weedon fan copied it (or had it copied) from an old ad or a poorly reproduced photo.

It does appear genuinely old.

Is there a label inside you can photograph? If so, it should be visible through one of the F-holes. Additional photos all around would be helpful.

Glenn

 

[walrus]

If I was going to make a fake Guild, this is not the model I would choose! This is a pretty rare model, so the "issues" really stand out. A lot of effort, though...

walrus

 

[Guildadelphia]

Maybe the owner was a big Bert Weedon fan but couldn't afford the real thing ?

 

[X-170AB]

The soundholes and overall shape look a lot like a Polish "Defil" guitar. Look at the 2nd and 6th photos on this page: http://euroguitars.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=294&hilit=defil

So possibly what Guildadelphia suggests is true, that the owner couldn't afford a real Guild BW, or perhaps they lived in a country where the Guild wasn't available.

 

[txbumper57]

I'm leaning towards that theory as well. It is obvious that it is not a Guild to Guild People like us but it is done well enough with enough thought and effort to qualify for someone's "Tribute" guitar of a Bert Weedon Model. I don't think it was made for resale as much as it was made as an individual's guitar that Idolized Bert Weedon. I don't think there was any Malicious intent when it was made. Someone Honestly put a lot of time and heart into making it.

 

[SFIV1967]

Welcome to LTG! You present a very interesting guitar. Yes, the body looks like either a Polish "Defil" or a Slowenian "Melodija" model. Are you in the UK?
Certainly, whoever created that guitar put a lot of effort into it to make it look similar to the original Bert Weedon model. But it's not a Guild guitar.

That's him:





Ralf

 

[guildman63]

This is too bad. I thought I would finally get to see the elusive BW guitar, but as said in Good Will Hunting, there will be no unmasking here today.

 

[hansmoust]

I attach you some pictures of Bert Weedon with his Guilds (had had multiple with several different features)

No, Bert Weedon only had one of those, but at some point he changed the Deluxe Kolb tuners for Grover Imperials.
He did however play a single cutaway Starfire in earlier years.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[adorshki]

I don't think it was made for resale as much as it was made as an individual's guitar that Idolized Bert Weedon. I don't think there was any Malicious intent when it was made. Someone Honestly put a lot of time and heart into making it.

Add me to that school too. Thought I posted that yesterday but I musta screwed up and you said it better anyway.

 

[SFIV1967]

No, Bert Weedon only had one of those, but at some point he changed the Deluxe Kolb tuners for Grover Imperials.
He did however play a single cutaway Starfire in earlier years.

So it looks like that originally his personal guitar also didn't have the Bert Weedon marked pickguard? I only see the BW TRC in this early picture:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/22/arts/dogWEEDON-obit/dogWEEDON-obit-superJumbo.jpg

And I saw that add with a Starfire II (but in your book you clarified he actually played a Starfire III before his BW model):

At least here he is holding a Starfire III as it looks:

Ralf

 

[hansmoust]

So it looks like that originally his personal guitar also didn't have the Bert Weedon marked pickguard?

Just like the Duane Eddy model, the earliest Bert Weedon models did not have 'Bert Weedon' on the pickguard. He got the pickguard later after Guild had tooled up for it.

And I saw that add with a Starfire II (but in your book you clarified he actually played a Starfire III before his BW model):
At least here he is holding a Starfire III as it looks:

Yes, he had a Starfire III. The last time I saw both the Bert Weedon and the Starfire III I made a couple of photos, but the lighting circumstances were pretty bad, so I never could use them.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[SFIV1967]

Just like the Duane Eddy model, the earliest Bert Weedon models did not have 'Bert Weedon' on the pickguard. He got the pickguard later after Guild had tooled up for it.

Interesting, makes sense. Duane Eddy had his personalized pickguard first as it looks like on this picture when Bert Weedon still had the standard pickguard mounted:

Ralf