GAD 25's marked USED, what are the most common issues?

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Chazmo said:
alpep said:
I do not get paid to spin facts like company puppets do.

what I told you was fact.

Hehehe... OK, Al. I assure you I wasn't out to mislead anyone and I doubly assure you that no one's payin' me to do that either. Although, my price is pretty low!! :)

Hope to see you at our next gathering, whatever / whenever it happens!

As you've seen, O people today are as annoyed as G people were when they closed Westerley. To me it's clear that Fender as a corporation cannot care about TWO premier acoustic brands at the same level: the acquisition of Guild was a calculated marketing move, because Fender tried for many years to sell top acoustics under their name but failed because its image is associate with electric (same thing that happened to Martin when they tried to make solid body guitars) and acutely they understood that they needed a premier american brand, like Guild. They shut down Westerley because at that time they wanted to concentrate all the production in Corona for cost reasons, but in 2003 they also aquired Charvel and Jackson, therefore they had no space enough in a single plant. They bought Tacoma because they were interested in the factory and the people who worked there had a lot of experience with acoustics, so they moved Guild there, another reasonable choice for the corporation. When they went there, they immediately put to the Tacoma brand aside because Guild had more history therefore more appeal, in the end they bought Kaman because that group had many business (Ovation, Adamas, drums, Taks) but not because they were particularly interested in these guitars, so they shut down Tacoma because two plants for acoustics were redundant and they already placed the Ovations aside... Al is right, Balladeers and Legends were always american instruments, and their transfer abroad means nothing good for Os.
 

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Chazmo said:
alpep said:
I do not get paid to spin facts like company puppets do.

what I told you was fact.

Hehehe... OK, Al. I assure you I wasn't out to mislead anyone and I doubly assure you that no one's payin' me to do that either. Although, my price is pretty low!! :)

Hope to see you at our next gathering, whatever / whenever it happens!


I know that you were not out to mislead anyone.
As you can tell I am passionate about ovations and Adamas guitars.

I will hope to make your next gathering with my guilds that I also love.
 

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Well, Al, Cuthy, I certainly understand what you guys are saying, and naturally I appreciate and can relate to the passion you're talking about.

We have had this tendency to vilify Fender for these major changes. I think what Cuthy said about the moves over the years is indeed what most of us have thought to be the case, but I think maybe it's too simplistic after meeting some of these guys last week. I'm not saying I know a whole lot more, but I am starting to believe that there is more to this (in each case) than meets the eye and than what the public at large knows. Companies don't air their dirty laundry publicly, and Fender is no exception.

It would really be good to get the record straight about why things unfolded as they did, though. In any case, we have to go on carrying the banner for our favorite brands. At least Ovation/Adamas production is continuing, as is Guild... The poor Tacoma fans ended up getting trampled in the process... It's not easy, is it?
 

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how about Sunn?



Chazmo said:
At least Ovation/Adamas production is continuing, as is Guild... The poor Tacoma fans ended up getting trampled in the process... It's not easy, is it?
 

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Chazmo said:
It would really be good to get the record straight about why things unfolded as they did, though.
Isn't that gonna be the subject for Volume IV of Hans' series? Hopefully we'll be around to read it? (trying to lighten up the whole subject with sincere affection for all parties concerned) :)
 
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