Bill Ashton
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Just as Chaz moved a thread that was wandering to a new one, I will attempt to do the same and maybe get some further discussion on different tuner styles and use. I must be at least partially responsible for that diversion, as I noted the new D55's had what I though to be lesser hardware.
Personally, I think I am probably a Kluson or Kluson-clone kinda guy. All my Fenders have had them, my newer MIM Fenders have them (probably Pings) and my Gibson J-30 has Gibson-branded look-alikes. To me, that is what a tuner is supposed to feel and operate like. Never any problems. My son bought Gotoh-Klusons for a Jimmy Page project-tele he was doing and the previous applies to those as well.
I understand Waverlys are supposed to be the be-all and end-all. My new GAD30PCE has Waverly-lookalike Grovers. They look good and work well, if a bit stiff. I do not like them however as I find the "butter-bean" handle just doesn't feel right to me, especially when changing strings and making a lot of turns. Its obnoxious.
My new (Tacoma) D55 has Grover Tunamatics (??), which I have seen for years but never had the pleasure of using. Pure luxury. While I can't say I love the big button look, they certainly operate and feel great and I can understand why they are a standard. Shouldn't Guild consider using these or an "Imperial" on their flagship pieces. Gotoh-Waverlys? Bleech!
Personally, I think I am probably a Kluson or Kluson-clone kinda guy. All my Fenders have had them, my newer MIM Fenders have them (probably Pings) and my Gibson J-30 has Gibson-branded look-alikes. To me, that is what a tuner is supposed to feel and operate like. Never any problems. My son bought Gotoh-Klusons for a Jimmy Page project-tele he was doing and the previous applies to those as well.
I understand Waverlys are supposed to be the be-all and end-all. My new GAD30PCE has Waverly-lookalike Grovers. They look good and work well, if a bit stiff. I do not like them however as I find the "butter-bean" handle just doesn't feel right to me, especially when changing strings and making a lot of turns. Its obnoxious.
My new (Tacoma) D55 has Grover Tunamatics (??), which I have seen for years but never had the pleasure of using. Pure luxury. While I can't say I love the big button look, they certainly operate and feel great and I can understand why they are a standard. Shouldn't Guild consider using these or an "Imperial" on their flagship pieces. Gotoh-Waverlys? Bleech!