D-40 Question

Taylor Martin Guild

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What years were there D-40 Guilds made with Adirondack tops?
I know that newer builds like Tacoma had them but what about Westerly years?
Did all D-40's that were called Bluegrass or Jubilee have Adirondack tops?

I would love to play some of these guitars.
 

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I have read some ebay and Craig's List adds that state that the tops are Adirodack on older D-40's.
They could be wrong or could some of the older Bluegrass Jubilee D-40's have Adirondack tops?
 

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My new New Hartford D40 is listed as having a "Red Spruce" top, and I've seen that used interchangeably with "Adirondack Spruce" and they do look very similar. I've also notice a lot of comments about Adirondack that it takes a fair amount of time to "open up" and I can believe that as the guitar is still real tight and needs a lot of playing! :D

Others here might have better knowledge than I do on this matter, though.
 

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From what I know the Adi tops on the D40 and D50 started when the factory moved to Tacoma and has carried over to New Hartford. Westerlys are Sitka.
 

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Taylor Martin Guild said:
I have read some ebay and Craig's List adds that state that the tops are Adirodack on older D-40's.
They could be wrong or could some of the older Bluegrass Jubilee D-40's have Adirondack tops?
BY far the most misinformation about our guitars is found on those sites, mainly put there by people who've seen a snippet of info somewhere and apply it to whatever they're listing. Negligent research motivated by greed. Occasionally an ethical individual will acknowledge a correction and edit their listing...
FWIW the '96 factory catalog makes no mention as to varieties of spruce on the tops. Neither did the '02 Fender Frontline catalog. I've never seen any official factory lit mentioning a specific variety of spruce. Not disputing the Tacoma references, 'cause I've never seen any Tacoma literature. First time I ever heard of that whole subject was when I joined here. I couldn't tell you what my Corona '40 is, it certainly doesn't say anything special in the owner's manual, but I agree with Sandy, I think it's still real tight and it's got about 300 hours on it. I'd bet money that if you put two identically built and aged guitars in front of my blind ears, the only difference being what variety of spruce the tops were made of, I couldn't tell the difference.
 

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I think the attributes ascribed to specific species of spruce are somewhat exaggerated. While the typical example of one spruce might differ from the typical example of another (for example, red spruce, on average, might be stiffer or have higher sound velocity than Sitka), there's a lot of overlap and when any two examples are compared, those "typical" differences may not be there. I have instruments with Sitka spruce, bearclaw Sitka spruce, red spruce, Engelmann spruce, European spruce, cedar, mahogany, and even wormy chestnut (that one's a mountain dulcimer) as top woods. They all sound different and those with similar top woods don't sound any more alike to me than ones with different top woods. Size, body style, and builder all make a considerably bigger difference, at least to my ears. If a guitar sounds good, I wouldn't worry what kind of spruce it used.

One of the questions I submitted to the LMG question thread was why Guild was using red spruce on many of its New Hartford models but Sitka on its most expensive -- the F512. I don't recall ever hearing the answer but I suspect it's because it generally has a more balanced tone that works better for a 12-string and/or it's difficult to find good looking pieces of red spruce in a size big enough for a 17" jumbo. In other words, I guess I don't equate red/Adirondack spruce with "the best" (although it can be a spectacular top wood, don't get me wrong) and I see Guild's usage pattern as consistent with that. Again, this is no dig at any wood. One of my favorite guitars had a red spruce top. (But then, the others of my favorite guitars don't.)
 
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