Cocaine

[davismanLV]

Yeah, in the 70's and 80's, they only made you leave the party to go home and change your soiled underwear from the baby laxative they'd cut their product with.

I remember!! Usually got really good stuff, but occasionally..... I remember some batches that you couldn't trust a fart!

 

[Neal]

Ahh, cocaine. Such a glamourous drug. Only the coolest people did it.

Until they soiled their pants. Or got arrested and went to prison. Or sold everything they owned, and then resorted to stealing from their own family and friends.

 

[lungimsam]

So why would you want to kill your own customers? i.e. Fentanyl laced coke

I don’t know. But he’s dead. His friend woke up in the ER and survived. And the dealer is Probly going away for a long time.
I guess at trial it’ll come out why the dealer did it unless he cops a plea and it doesn’t go to trial. If I hear why he did it I’ll post back.
I’m amazed that it was caught on camera so that they could prosecute the dealer. I’m sure plenty of this is going around and they’re not able to track down who the dealers are. Maybe it’s cheaper to cut the Coke with fentanyl for the dealer and pass it off as coke.k Or maybe it gives the Coke extra kick so that the customers will like it and come back.

 

[dreadnut]

My nephew is a crackhead, 50 years old, back living with his parents after his latest stint in prison.

I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but my expectation is that he will be back on the crack before too long.

It has been a viscous cycle that typically ends up with him stealing from family members to buy crack. He stole my wife's debit card once..

They say cigarettes are the most addictive drug but I'm not so sure about that after watching him struggle with crack.

 

[Stuball48]

There are advantages to being raised in a very rural part of Tennessee in the 50s and 60s as there were no illegal drugs in our high school (only high school in the county--Houston). Total number of students in grades 9--12 was 246. Beer and whiskey were only illegal drugs around. I had two brothers - loved 'em both and one was a brother anyone would be proud of and the other one was a drunk. Saw my momma cry and my daddy sell stuff he loved trying to help him out. This was when I was about eight to seventeen. Did I love that brother yes but decided in those years that I would never touch alcohol or any other illegal drug because of the hurt I had seen it cause. I have never drank a beer, wine, or liquor of any kind not because I am a goodie goodie two shoe but out of fear - I am afraid I would like it. And I meant to buy just one Guild but that didn't hold out.
Got plenty of faults - just not drugs and alcohol.

 

[Neal]

Lots of people have clawed their way out of that hole. Even after multiple relapses. I hope your nephew is one of them.

It used to keep me going as a probation officer, seeing people who had been circling the drain who finally choose to get clean and stay clean, amid the carnage of relentless addiction all around them.

There are a lot of people alive and free out there today who were able to shake that demon, and I had a small role to play in helping them make that choice. Giving them just enough chances to finally get it right, while not unduly threatening public safety. It is a real balancing act, done every day in every probation office in America.

 

[davismanLV]

Lots of people have clawed their way out of that hole. Even after multiple relapses. I hope your nephew is one of them.

It used to keep me going as a probation officer, seeing people who had been circling the drain who finally choose to get clean and stay clean, amid the carnage of relentless addiction all around them.

There are a lot of people alive and free out there today who were able to shake that demon, and I had a small role to play in helping them make that choice. Giving them just enough chances to finally get it right, while not unduly threatening public safety. It is a real balancing act, done every day in every probation office in America.

I hope those people appreciate your help. Drug abuse is rough and so is life.....

 

[RBSinTo]

The entire drug culture is a concept that has always eluded me, and other than smoking hash and grass once each in the sixties, I have never had any desire to try cocaine, or any other drugs.
Even alcohol is of no interest, and I don't drink at all.
I suppose if I do have an addiction, it is to books.
RBSinTo

 

[Rich Cohen]

Never tried it....glad I didn't. I'm with Rich Peterson....a little wine is enough.

 

[Opsimath]

I hope those people appreciate your help. Drug abuse is rough and so is life.....

Thanks for the positive spin, Tom!

 

[matsickma]

As a matter of note...true or false...our small town didn't have any drugs until the guys coming back from Vietnam returned. I would say the guys who gratuated HS in '66 -'68 was where my friends and I got samples to try. Today, back home is sad place. Little work with the coal mines being the only industry other than education, government and tourism. Even all the old clothing factories that the woman worked in have shut down. With little opportunity those who can't get an education are left in despair. Classic rural community blight. Even though the coal mining industry has be shipping cosl like crazy to China the jobs are sparse because it's all massive strip mining with gigantic steamshoves and huge Euclid trucks. With anthracite coal in vertical veins it easier to just dig a hole inlieu of digging a mine shaft or tunnel. I think a total of 65 workers now dig out more coal than the 20,000 did back in the 40's.

Today, the old homes become HUD residence. Low income people, often young woman from the city with children move in and a few months later men dealers shack up or use the site as a drop point. Happen next to my moms house. Eventually the young mother and child get evicted and before leaving all the copper pipes are torn out of the house. My brother started to buy the adjacent house's to my moms to create a buffer zone. I think he was high bid on a house on the main street for $2,900. That was 7 years ago. Today the prices are different. However you can't live in those kind of houses without spending $70k-$100k. Contractors often buy them to fix and flip.
M

 

[Teleguy61]

A highly dangerous drug, and all the more dangerous because it is subtle.

My experiences with people who used it extensively are entirely negative - major personality changes - empty and unfounded hubris, hostile impatience, heightened aggressiveness, delusional paranoia, etc, and then there's a bad side, too.

The was a famous black comedian, now in disgrace, who did a solo routine in which he delivered both sides of a conversation between two people:

A: So like, why do you do cocaine?

B: Because it intensifies your personality.

A: Yeah, but what if you're an a--hole?

Exactly.
I hated what it did to people I liked.

 

[bobouz]

During my junior year of high school (‘67-‘68 in the LA area), I went from a school that was more Beach Boys oriented, to one that had a significant drug culture subset. The difference was that the druggies tended to come from more affluent families in my new neighborhood & could readily afford to buy dope & acid. Early on at the new school, I met a nice guy who, by our senior year, was not remotely recognizable as the same person after dropping acid one too many times. A lasting impression was made on my still developing pea brain. Today, my one vice of choice is a beer each night with dinner, after which I promptly fall asleep on the sofa!

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

So why would you want to kill your own customers? i.e. Fentanyl laced coke

Not all dealers think as linearly as you do.

Gallo puts vitamins in its jugs so winos live longer. Now that's an enlightened business model!

 

[fronobulax]

Gallo puts vitamins in its jugs so winos live longer. Now that's an enlightened business model!

Source? That sounds like a great story but I cannot find anything that confirms or supports it. I don't really expect an outright admission but none of the nutritional labels for Gallo's "cheap reds" appear any different from other company's reds. Gallo does make several fortified wines but fortified doesn't mean what some people might think it does. A fortified wine is a wine that has had a distilled spirit added to it in order to increase the alcohol content. A fortified wine is not like a breakfast cereal "fortified with vitamins and minerals". Thanks.

 

[Nuuska]

Trying to raise the 15 years young grandson of my wife - his mother died on overdose of something about 13 years ago - I like to drink beer - used to drink red wine - before that it was vodka - I do enjoy most of alcohol-drug-related "fun" talk - but there is a very dark shadow hanging over our family.

 

[dreadnut]

Sorry about your Mom, Nuuska.

 

[davismanLV]

Not his mom, I don't think.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

Source? That sounds like a great story but I cannot find anything that confirms or supports it. I don't really expect an outright admission but none of the nutritional labels for Gallo's "cheap reds" appear any different from other company's reds. Gallo does make several fortified wines but fortified doesn't mean what some people might think it does. A fortified wine is a wine that has had a distilled spirit added to it in order to increase the alcohol content. A fortified wine is not like a breakfast cereal "fortified with vitamins and minerals". Thanks.

The most reliable: urban myth!