Better than The Last Waltz

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After rewatching The Last Waltz (again), and posting about its must-see status on social media, this concert popped up in my YouTube feed. It’s from earlier that same year as TLW (‘76), and aside from poorer video and audio (but not horrible), I’m finding it an even better performance from The Band. Probably because they weren’t having to deal with all the rigmarole that filming TLW entailed.

 

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I must confess that I didn't really like The Band at first.

I just didn't get it.

They were obviously very good musicians who were make a concerted effort to sound amateurish--it wasn't convincing--it seemed fraudulent.

Luckily for me, I got over it.

Thanks for posting.
 

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The Last Waltz is still my favourite concert movie of all time! It was my introduction into the rock, blues and folk giants. I was 13 years old and couldn't take my eyes, and ears, off of the screen.
 

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After rewatching The Last Waltz (again), and posting about its must-see status on social media, this concert popped up in my YouTube feed. It’s from earlier that same year as TLW (‘76), and aside from poorer video and audio (but not horrible), I’m finding it an even better performance from The Band. Probably because they weren’t having to deal with all the rigmarole that filming TLW entailed.


Thanks for putting this up -- I was unaware of it.
 

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The only reason I knew about The Band was cause of Bob Dylan. I like the Basement Tapes story and Big Pink. And I loved in Last Waltz when Robbie outdueled Clapton in a song and Clapton was all smiles at Robbie's solo...
 

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I always thought that "Rock of Ages" was a way better live album than "The Last Waltz". I also find Martin Scorcese's man crush on Robbie Robertson a bit creepy. He continued that in "Once Were Brothers", and it was even creepier. Robbie also did a pretty good job of screwing his bandmates out of a lot of money.
 

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I always thought that "Rock of Ages" was a way better live album than "The Last Waltz". I also find Martin Scorcese's man crush on Robbie Robertson a bit creepy. He continued that in "Once Were Brothers", and it was even creepier. Robbie also did a pretty good job of screwing his bandmates out of a lot of money.
The band mate that seemed the happiest was Levon. I think he had big jam parties at his house up till he died. Never quit smoking. Went at it all the way up to his death. Never gave up. Great bit part actor too. Awesome in Shooter.
 

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Thanks for posting, Chris. I enjoyed that! It's great to see the guys as a working band without all the guest stars and documentary side cuts. Although, the Ronnie Hawkins appearance in TLW is pretty epic. "Big Time, Bill! Big Time!" called out to an offstage Bill Graham. I saw the Band one time at Summer Jam at Watkins Glen. A very tight group of musicians! And, I stayed thru Garth Hudson's organ solo during an afternoon thunder storm. It was like being in church.
 

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The band mate that seemed the happiest was Levon. I think he had big jam parties at his house up till he died. Never quit smoking. Went at it all the way up to his death. Never gave up. Great bit part actor too. Awesome in Shooter.
I think Levon had some hard feelings toward Robertson. He did not allow it to consume him. Some believe "Brothers" was Roberstons effort to write the history, because survivors (like the winner) write the history. I am persuaded that Robertson did not act as a fiduciary toward his band mates.
 

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It's a bummer still when I learn any musician I might have looked up to growing up was actually a total jack wagon. Or like, super narcissist, but again, maybe that is what makes someone a good artist. As you constantly have to fight not living up to your ideal or something like that. I am sure there are many great artists however that are kind and good people.
 

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I think Levon had some hard feelings toward Robertson. He did not allow it to consume him. Some believe "Brothers" was Roberstons effort to write the history, because survivors (like the winner) write the history. I am persuaded that Robertson did not act as a fiduciary toward his band mates.
I wonder ....

Jack Bruce/Pete Brown vs Ginger Baker

Sting vs Stewart Copeland

Robbie Robertson vs Levon Helm?

It is a common thing. A good/real drummer is worth his/her weight in gold. While drummers may not generally write extensively they do contribute so much to the arrangement and success of a tune. The Bruce/Brown tune, White Room, would have been somewhat lame without Clapton's contributions. It would have been very lame without Baker's. Some of the key signature pieces of that tune such as the 5/4 passages are the result of Baker's input. But no writing credits for Ginger. Bitter Ginger. And The Police .... And perhaps ... The John Butler Trio ... And on and on.

I once met a Canadian guitarist who had recorded a number of albums with a group. He also had done a fair amount of session work. He outlined the standard progression of a (as in pretty much any) Canadian group. The group works really hard. They get a recording contract. They make videos. They get air play. They sell records. The song writer comes to rehearsals in his new BMW. The rest of the band come on the bus. Resentment grows like a malignant cancer. The group disintegrates.

Robertson, while not the only songwriter, was the most prolific writer in The Band, I believe. Most of the royalties would come to him.

Yes, Band of Brothers is a self-serving Robertson narrative. But parts of it are believable. Coke-heads, you can work with. It requires a thick skin, patience, and self-restraint, a lot of self-restraint (the restraint necessary to avoid murder convictions). Junkies are an entirely different and infinitely more difficult thing. And resentful junkies are even more difficult. And it is hard to lose a friend to narcotics - everything you loved about them is gone.
 
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Robertson, while not the only songwriter, was the most prolific writer in The Band, I believe. Most of the royalties would come to him.
Highly recommended reading: This Wheel's On Fire, Levon Helm's autobiography. While Robbie's name is on all of the songs, it was far from being a solo effort on his part. The hurt and betrayal expressed by Levon seems genuine.
 

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While Robbie's name is on all of the songs, it was far from being a solo effort on his part. The hurt and betrayal expressed by Levon seems genuine.

Yes. My point exactly. And it may be true that Robertson showed up with a tune (chords, melody, signature licks, and lyrics) already done, but the finished thing is always a group effort.
 

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I wonder ....

Jack Bruce/Pete Brown vs Ginger Baker

Sting vs Stewart Copeland

Robbie Robertson vs Levon Helm?

It is a common thing. A good/real drummer is worth his/her weight in gold. While drummers may not generally write extensively they do contribute so much to the arrangement and success of a tune. The Bruce/Brown tune, White Room, would have been somewhat lame without Clapton's contributions. It would have been very lame without Baker's. Some of the key signature pieces of that tune such as the 5/4 passages are the result of Baker's input. But no writing credits for Ginger. Bitter Ginger. And The Police .... And perhaps ... The John Butler Trio ... And on and on.

I once met a Canadian guitarist who had recorded a number of albums with a group. He also had done a fair amount of session work. He outlined the standard progression of a (as in pretty much any) Canadian group. The group works really hard. They get a recording contract. They make videos. They get air play. They sell records. The song writer comes to rehearsals in his new BMW. The rest of the band come on the bus. Resentment grows like a malignant cancer. The group disintegrates.

Robertson, while not the only songwriter, was the most prolific writer in The Band, I believe. Most of the royalties would come to him.

Yes, Band of Brothers is a self-serving Robertson narrative. But parts of it are believable. Coke-heads, you can work with. It requires a thick skin, patience, and self-restraint, a lot of self-restraint (the restraint necessary to avoid murder convictions). Junkies are an entirely different and infinitely more difficult thing. And resentful junkies are even more difficult. And it is hard to lose a friend to narcotics - everything you loved about them is gone.
And a drummer with a voice like Levon’s is… well there are no other drummers with a voice like Levon’s.
I resisted watching Band of Brothers for a long time but it was worth watching. A bit one sided but also full of great stories and history.
My biggest complaint with all of them is the lack of acknowledgment of Roy Buchanan but who knows what kind of a handful he was to deal with?
 
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