B30 vs new Guild acoustics - sound ?

Nuuska

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Hello

The band that I've done sound for last 18 years will have their 50th anniversary tour next year.

We decided that there will be an acoustic set 0f 4-6 songs in the middle of the show.
So I brought my fretless B30 to the bass player to se if he could use it. He has been using a Fender Jazz bass since 1972 or so.
Calling him yesterday he says "After getting the taste of honey it is impossible to care for anything less."

So here comes my question: Are the present Guild acoustic basses anywhere near soundwise to B30 - or B50 ?

I trust playability etc is close enough - at least after some tweaking - but the sound. Fretted or fretless.

Thank you

ps - YouTube link for the band - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCytIsJ-7b5Hu5K51AzhLFWw
 

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I don't know. I use my B50 in purely unamplified settings. So many basses failed to live up to that that I stopped comparing it to alternatives. But I understand that for my application the tone is irrelevant if it cannot be heard.
 

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I bought a B240e bass when they first came out about 5(?) years ago. I found it very comfortable to play and I thought the quality was very good considering the price point. That said, I bought it in hopes of finding an acoustic bass to play in un-amplified settings. Though it wasn't a total let-down in that regard, I think anything more than a parlor or concert style acoustic 6 string would surely drown it out, so I ended up parting with it. The body is pretty big, but it doesn't have the depth that the B30e has, which I think is key for the acoustic projection of bass.

Since you're talking live performance though, I'm assuming the main application would be plugged-in. In which case I think the B240e would do just fine. I have never liked the sound of any piezo pickup + bronze strings, so one of the first things I did when I got the bass was to put D'Addario Black Nylon Tapewounds on it. That way, plugged in I thought it actually sounded pretty nice. The tapewound strings gave it a nice warm, pretty natural sounding tone. Again though I really didn't plug it in for more than an hour or two total, so I can't say too much in terms of versatility or how it would sit in a mix. If I recall correctly, the preamp is active and requires a 9v, but the controls are simply volume and tone, little adjustment wheels right inside the soundhole. Important to note, some reviews complain of uneven string-to-string response when plugged in, which should be fixable by massaging the saddle+piezo a bit and maybe trying a few different sets of strings. In my experience that's usually just a contact issue with the piezo string underneath the saddle, or if strings are on the low-tension side of things, that can prevent the required amount of pressure to properly transfer the string's vibration. I'm not sure, but I don't think mine had that issue.

If you A/B'd the B240e and B30e plugged in, I think the B30e would likely sound a little more complex/lush and surely a bit more versatile with the 2 band eq, but the B240e should do just fine in a live mix and might even be a little less prone to feedback given the shallower body?

Worth noting, in retrospect, I think I actually preferred the neck profile of the B240e a little over my '92 B30e. The B240e is a little deeper front to back and my B30e neck has always felt to my hand a little flatter than might be ideal.

Finally, the gig bag that comes with the 240e is very nice, definitely offers a lot more protection than any run-of-the-mill regular gig bag. Would probably be roadworth if handled carefully. If it needs to be transported in a gear trailer though, I would probably expect the need to track down and buy a hardshell case for it.

If I was recording and had to have an acoustic bass on a session, the B30e would be the clear winner. Likewise for un-amplified acoustic jams. However, for touring and playing live on stage, I would almost surely take the B240e over the B30e. Shallower body makes it more comfortable to play and likely more feedback-resistant. It's significantly lighter too than the B30e (probably by 2-3 lbs). Also, as mentioned, sounds pretty decent and should do fine in a live stage mix, especially given the exceptional soundman behind the board 😜
 
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Hello

Thank you for your answer. We have a session today and I will forward your info to the bass player. 🎼

Meanwhile Jymy The Dog needs his daily walk in forest 🐾
 
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