'66 SF III Restoration Documentation and Catharsis

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I picked up this '66 Starfire III off ebay last fall - here. Clearly in need of TLC, but at a good price. It was in the condition I expected, sounded great with plenty of dings and warts. The action was terrible. I figured on a fair bit of work, but I had not known of Guild's reputation for notoriously difficult neck resets. My local luthiers didn't want to touch it (plus their pandemic-fueled backlog had them booked). I continued to research options and in the meantime, cleaned her off, removed the thumb washers and played it. I liked it way too much to part it out.

A few months of searching I came across Harpeth Guitar Restoration in Nashville. Specializing in vintage neck resets and finish repair. Scott was great to communicate with, gave me a fair quote, and I sent it to him. I had seen a few youtube videos of his process which also gave me confidence in his skills. I ended up with a neck reset, nut/frets, tuners, fixed headstock veneer, and cleaned up electronics. 2 months later, I had my guitar back and it is extraordinary. All the patina, feel, sound of the old guitar, but now infinitely capable. Instead of my quirky 'character' guitar, it is a super player!

I can't recommend Scott and Harpeth enough. I have dealt with a fair number of luthiers/repair people over the years and Scott was head and shoulders above. He had a real stewardship approach, with the knowledge and skill to take on. I explained to Scott that beyond this wonderful LTG forum there wasn't much information on these neck resets. So Scott started documenting the repair process. Part one just loaded today:


As an aside, guitars can be such emotional touchstones. I was given a '65 by a friend many years ago. I was at his house and while walking back from the bathroom saw a beat up case sitting on the floor. When I opened it it was like that seen in Pulp Fiction when they open the briefcase and it is just glowing. It was my dream guitar. Broken headstock, replaced pickups, a nickel wedged in to the pickup ring to hold the pickup in place. But magic. I recorded and toured with it for years. And wrote a few songs that I believe could have only been written on this guitar. >12 years later, out of the blue he asks for the guitar back. I offer to buy it, he declines. So I gave it back. Ouch.

Flash forward a few years. I had paused playing live and music in general for a few years. But the pandemic and my growing kids' interest in music coaxed me back to playing. Then my wife was diagnosed with cancer. And our lives were turned upside down. Music became one of the most potent coping mechanisms. As did a new perspective that we need to seek out as much joy as possible now. For some reason, this time got me thinking back to the magic of that old Guild, which started this whole journey.

This is the restored guitar, just back from Harpeth! It's come a long way from the original post!

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That's an awesome guitar, congrats on it being restored. I follow Harpeth on Instagram and YouTube and I just so happened to watch it before you posted this. It's a very cool look into a Guild neck reset, can't wait for part 2. I recently had my 53' Epiphone Triumph Regent brought to my luthier for a neck reset and refret and it made a world a difference. It's a great feeling to keep these old guitars alive and get it done right so they last decades more.
 

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I kinda' lost you there, llmonty... Is that guitar in the 2nd picture the one that you sent in for repair to the neck? And, that's the one you've had since last fall?

Well, anyway, some friend! Wouldn't even sell you a guitar that you'd had for 12 years and loved? Do you have any pictures of that one?
 

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I kinda' lost you there, llmonty... Is that guitar in the 2nd picture the one that you sent in for repair to the neck? And, that's the one you've had since last fall?

Well, anyway, some friend! Wouldn't even sell you a guitar that you'd had for 12 years and loved? Do you have any pictures of that one?
Ha - sorry - the guitar at the bottom is the restored guitar that I just got back (the ebay buy from the fall). Don't get me started on the friend thing! His wife and mine had a falling out and I am pretty convinced she made him ask for it back. it was the oddest exchange when he came to get it, like he wanted to say he was sorry.
 

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And here are two pictures of the of the old guitar the friend took back - that little boy is now 6' 3" and driving. :)
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Boy, you guys sure look like you were having fun that day!

Well, I hear you about spouses getting in the way... That's a sad story. But, I'm glad you got another one to take its place. Good luck with the continuing resto, if anything else needs to be done. The "new" one looks good as it stands!
 

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Here is part II of the restoration. All done! I laughed when he talked about it being dirty. You should have seen it when I got it - hard to tell from the original pictures in the LTG Online Offerings ebay listing thread but it was super grimy! Already put in many hours of joyful playing in it. Taking to rehearsal tonight!

I am happy I was able to rehab this one, saving it maybe from getting parted out. And glad to have found Harpeth to do the work. I first dipped my toe into rehabbing with doing a Baxendale conversion on my old Kay jumbo that was imploding. It came out great. The process was way better with Harpeth. I have noticed a few transactions lately on Reverb with SF IIIs that needed neck resets/work at somewhat reasonable (compared to market) prices. Hopefully they will live another day too!

 
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The catharsis is the most important and well deserved part - enjoy!
 

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The catharsis is the most important and well deserved part - enjoy!
Thank you! It is interesting to me how this guitar became a symbol of living in the now, finding joy.

I was just reading @GAD 's own '66 review and can concur with everything there. The neck profile, nut width, and radius are all sublime. Chimey bridge is super sweet, as is the warm/full nbut not woofy neck pickup. And seems that the restoration addressed all the important things:
  • I replaced the crap tuners with Grover Sta-tites which look and perform the part well
  • The refret ended up being Stew Mac's Medium/Higher, which are .048"H and .92"W (pretty close to medium jumbo, but with a tang that fit better with the existing fret slots)M
  • Most importantly, the break angle, bridge height, string height, nut are all where they should be!
 
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Great video and a great restoration!

I hope everytinhg is well at home, too - sending positive thoughts your way...

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Sold my Starfire to a buddy when I knew I just couldn't do the guitar justice. Now my son actually plays quite well and we got to borrow it back. If I'm lucky I'll be able to buy it back. I know I'll be bummed I let it go if he won't. BTW said friend has lots of guitars to choose from so we are hopeful. Sucks that the wife's got involved in your case. Glad you got a new one to take the old ones place.
 
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