New Guild Day - A broken-in 1994 S-100 reissue.

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So for those of you who saw the thread in the ebay forum, I found this on ebay last week and bought it instantly. I had sworn off reissues a long time ago, partly because of build problems/fit-and-finish issues with the late 90's ones, and partly because I just prefer HB1's over SD's every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Now, you can swap out pickups, but I never ever want to have to re-route a guitar. It's just not my thing to alter an instrument so drastically, you know?

I heard tell of early early reissues with HB1's and saw the covers on this baby and got so excited that I hit the buy-it-now.

Here's a photo with the strings off. I love the classic roller-adjustomatic bridges. I love the classic flat-top toggle. And those gotta be HB1's right?

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That's when I heard that in 1994, Guild actually put HB1 covers on SD's. Man, that threw me for a loop.

Getting the guitar, the truth is revealed:

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But there's a silver lining here. The routed holes are the right size to swap out HB1's without re-routing. It's possible that the height adjustment screws could be a little long on original HB1's for the depth of the hole, but that's a much easier fix.

The ebay pic was blurry, but there was a possibility of the guitar being #14 and there was also a possibility of it being #74. What I got was a bigger mystery - what the heckfire is going on with this serial number? Is that an 8? Or is it just the strangest placement for a ding on the planet?

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Considering all the other features, there's no doubt in my mind that this is a 1994. The adjustomatic, the HB1 covers, and the very high build quality, the rounded corners of the fretboard, the fit and finish of the fretboard and binding all seem to confirm this.

Moving on, the guitar had some kind of bizarre "system" type of strap pegs on it. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the original strap pegs were in a small zip lock in the case. I've changed those back out. Same type of screw threads, so they fit back in nice and tight.

Frets show a bit of wear, but not necessarily needing to be addressed immediately.

I'll post more pics but this is a working weekend. I'm still considering moving this guitar on to a new owner, but it is growing on me.

I'll be back later.
 

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Nice find! Next post, give us an overall shot of the whole guitar, please.
 

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and I thought I had a bad case of Guildgas; nice score anyway ! Let us know how it sounds compared to your `77.
 

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That is definitely not an "8." First off, it's obvious that it's a lower-SN reissue. That only points towards '94. Also, the number you're thinking could be an "8" is definitely more rounded than an actual "8" would be when stamped. That's a ding, mis-stamp, or finish issue.

Check out your pic next to one with an actual "8" in the SN:



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Looks to be decent. Might be a keeper, and I wouldn't be shy about HB-1's if you like them better. I know I do. But it'll never be quite like your '77 with the shallower neck set and tailpiece further back. You basically have a newer version of any earlier-'70's S-100 with Duncans.

Enjoy!
 

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I think this early reissue is kind of a mix-up of the early 70's and late 70's versions.

I'll see if I can organize this:

Similarities with Early 70's S-100s:
- Body and neck on same plane
- bigger heel.
- fretboard raised above face of guitar.
- "pulled back" stop piece.

Similarities with Late 70's S-100s:
- wider nut
- more rounded fretboard radius
- much fatter frets
- late 70's adjustomatic, studs and lugs
- "S-100" carved into TRC.
- Thicker body and therefore heavier (and it is my opinion that the late 70's S-100's are a bit more resonant, this one feels more resonant as well).
 

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Oh, and thanks for the serial number comparison, Q.

I think that it's possibly a misstamp that had a '0' stamped over it. It's too clean and perfect, with the paint and the overspray applied just right. Everywhere else on the guitar, any ding has "bubbled" overspray around it. Comparing with those, it seems that this ding or stamp happened before finishing.
 

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Los Angeles said:
Similarities with Late 70's S-100s:
- wider nut

I thought they were the same nut width? :?: The late 90s-00 models, yea, wider, but shouldn't the early reissues be the same as the 70s? I know mine are compared to my 74. *shrug*

Los Angeles said:
- Thicker body and therefore heavier (and it is my opinion that the late 70's S-100's are a bit more resonant, this one feels more resonant as well).

I asked Hans about this at one point, when comparing my 00's depth and weight and he said, IIRC, that due to the fact that these are all done by hand, not CnC machines, there is a good bit of variation. For example, my green 94 is noticeably lighter than my 74.

And, just for the record, it looks like a mis-stamp to me...but, then again, it looked to me like a '14' in the auction pics, not a '74', so... :lol:
 

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I'll have to get a ruler and really figure it out. I think the nut got wider around 75? and this particular reissue feels like my 77. but only the ruler will know for sure. :)
 

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My 1994 Starfire was magic because it had older HB1 pickups, but newer, wider Ebony fretboard. '94 is a great year for Guild Electrics IMHO.
 

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Los Angeles said:
I'll have to get a ruler and really figure it out. I think the nut got wider around 75? and this particular reissue feels like my 77. but only the ruler will know for sure. :)
I'm really interested in this & like the wider nuts as you know. :)
 

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Zelja said:
Los Angeles said:
I'll have to get a ruler and really figure it out. I think the nut got wider around 75? and this particular reissue feels like my 77. but only the ruler will know for sure. :)
I'm really interested in this & like the wider nuts as you know. :)

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Now that's a wide nut!

Thanks for sharing the joy and the mystery of this S-100!
 

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As promised: MORE PICS!

Apologies about quality, these were taken on my iphone during a business call.

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When this heavy spray gets a scratch, it really shows:

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And the latest mystery: Are these someone's initials? Something else? What on earth it going on here?

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Hey, initials in the TR cavity is a tradition at Guild. Go JT! :) Look closely and see if the initials are lacquered over... if so, you can be sure. :)

This was done at Tacoma:
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Chazmo said:
Hey, initials in the TR cavity is a tradition at Guild. Go JT! :) Look closely and see if the initials are lacquered over... if so, you can be sure. :)

This was done at Tacoma:
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WOW - I had no idea about this. Yep, the initials are under the laquer. I wonder who JT is?
 

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Los Angeles said:
WOW - I had no idea about this. Yep, the initials are under the laquer. I wonder who JT is?

I dunno...Hans wouldn't tell me and said I had to wait for book 2. :cry: But JT had something to do with my white 93/94 as well:


Click for the biggering...
 

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hansmoust said:
Hammer said:
Los Angeles said:
WOW - I had no idea about this. Yep, the initials are under the laquer. I wonder who JT is?

I dunno...Hans wouldn't tell me and said I had to wait for book 2. :cry: But JT had something to do with my white 93/94 as well

No, I did answer the question. I said you had to wait for the serial numbers!

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19951&p=214885&hilit=JT#p214885

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

Oh yea, whoops! You'll have to forgive me...I'm getting forgetful in my old age. :lol:
 
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