Sold SOLD: 1957 Hoboken Guild F30

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edit 10.21.2020:
this guitar sold locally in NYC. Yay! Fun story: the buyer mentioned he used to own this guitar and knew its original owner as well. It made it all the way out to San Francisco and then came back to New York, only to end up in the hands of one of its previous owners. Small world and the type of story that makes these guitars great.

EDIT 10.9.2020:

Hi Folks,

Rather than post a new thread, I decided to repurpose my olde thread. I now have TWO Guild F-30s, after posting here in search of one just a few months back.

With that said, I am trying to sell one of them, a 1957 players condition Guild F30 Sunburst. It is a lovely vintage guitar. Mojo all day.

I hate to simply link out to Reverb, but that's got the pics and a huge blurb of details about the guitar. With that said, happy to work with an LTG member on the price to keep it in the family -- so please contact me if you're interested! Asking $1600 + shipping on the listing, located in the NJ / NYC area.

https://reverb.com/item/36183146-ra...en-built-new-york-era-vintage-acoustic-guitar

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Hi,

Searching for a Hoboken-built Guild F-30, ideally sunburst but natural considered too.

I know there are some on Reverb, ebay, etc, but all are priced kinda high in my opinion, including the one a half hour away from me in Queens. I see these pop up sub-$1k for a "reliced" worn example and mint ones go higher. Please let me know if you see or know of one for sale.


Thank you,
Tarun
 
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Thanks for this input, I felt so too and offered a little more than $1k less, as it looks like a clean example, but even that feels pretty high. I know price is really conditional but even clean examples sometimes sell for closer to $1k, $1200 if you score a deal!

As a kid, a lot of friends' dads had Guilds and I've been meaning to get a Hoboken one for some time now, as I live about a mile and change from where the old factory used to be.
 

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Thanks for this input, I felt so too and offered a little more than $1k less, as it looks like a clean example, but even that feels pretty high. I know price is really conditional but even clean examples sometimes sell for closer to $1k, $1200 if you score a deal!

As a kid, a lot of friends' dads had Guilds and I've been meaning to get a Hoboken one for some time now, as I live about a mile and change from where the old factory used to be.
I’ve seen plenty of Westerly F-30s go for around $1K, but Hoboken era tends to be closer to the $1500(+) range for good examples.
 

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Agreed, I think $1500 for a good condition Hoboken example would be reasonable, I'd be willing to commit to that. Hoping to find a player's condition example in the $1200 - $1300 range, but have seen beaters lower than that.

Finding a private seller would also be beneficial, as even striking a deal on other marketplaces gets the feds involved and after taxes, my eyes water at he prices I'm seeing for these lovely guitars!
 

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If you find a Hoboken beater, factor in that it's likely it will need a neck reset. That's not a reflection on quality - most quality guitars that age that have been strung up to pitch all that time need one by now.
 

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Great point, it does also factor into cost that one not needing a reset might be better maintained over the years, and one might argue that is hard to put an exact price on.
 

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Keep looking, sometimes just google it, as they could pop up in a vintage section of a GC or other dealer. Mine outplayed the similar Martin 000-18 I owned, so I dumped the Martin. It has hideous cosmetic back 'repairs', a few cracks, scratches and belt rash. The top has weird marks where aggressive picking could mar the finish, but it doesn't look like a pick made them. More like it was flogged with a very thin necklace. Also, a stable crack that hasn't gone past the orig bridge seemingly emanating from what looks like a BB shot. Finally, a lightly scratched in name (Andy) on the upper bass side bout.

It's in original '62 condition and I paid $1100 for it. To me, it was a great deal.

In these strange times, don't be afraid to shoot offers around if you see one you like. Some folks are hurtin' and may work with you. When I read your post it crossed my mind to think about selling mine. Maybe down the road.

I look around for these out of habit so if one pops up and I see it first I'll zip you a message here.
 

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Now that's what I'm talking about. It is a a testiment to Guild builds that these guitars survive so gracefully.

Thanks jedzep, I appreciate the help looking out. I'd rather have one with a little more 'character' at a discount, but I feel like these are keepers so I'm trying to justify splurging on one of these slightly overpriced clean examples, haha.

I am lookin at one on Craigslist now that's out of state, listed at $1600. Gonna see about making an offer. I think if I'm going to get up to that range, I might hold out for a sunburst.
 

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I wondered about that, Chris. Despite the label, I think that bridge shape is an indicator of a departure from N. Joisey.
 

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Thanks! Yes, I'm in touch with that seller and one in Chicago. So you're thinking that transitional 1970 F-30 in Billings is a Westerly, then? Seller seems honest as he disclosed that info, too. Would value other opinions. It does have the engraved TRC.
 

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Thanks! Yes, I'm in touch with that seller and one in Chicago. So you're thinking that transitional 1970 F-30 in Billings is a Westerly, then? Seller seems honest as he disclosed that info, too. Would value other opinions. It does have the engraved TRC.
If it’s short scale, it’s Hoboken. Westerlys were long scale, until the 90s.
 

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that 1970 F-30 is the Hoboken shape and design, but built in Westerly. (and the truss rod cover is upside down).

i have a 1970 F-112 in New York/Long Island, if u want to go that route. then u could play it with 6 or 12 strings, i suppose? is the same body as the F-30. it has had some work done for sure, and is far from mint, but the neck and headstock have never been broken, and has the original (somehow very clean) case. crazy finish checking, and serious mojo, all over the guitar. again, although it was built in Westerly, it is "a Hoboken F-112." I'd sell it locally for sure. into it for $990

anyway, that 1970 F-30 for $850 looks like a good deal. (just too bad it is in Montana). it may need some work (most of them do) but she looks to be all there. 1970 was a great year for Guild.
 
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one not needing a reset might be better maintained over the years.
not really. a 40 to 50 y/o guitar not needing a reset could mean the previous owner used light strings, tuned down, or didn't play the guitar much and kept it under the bed with no tension on the strings. That's ir, pretty much.

Now that's what I'm talking about. It is a a testiment to Guild builds that these guitars survive so gracefully.
meh....if a steelstring flattop's geometry doesn't change after half a century, it's most likely way overbuilt. Hoboken Guilds weren't, which is why most of them need a reset by now. that's just how that works, and is more a sign if a guitar being built right than anything else.
 

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Did not the earlier ones (Hoboken) have a 1 5/8 inch string spacing at the nut, besides the short scale? I know that would be a concern for me. At some time, they went to 1 11/16ths inch spacing..... Chris knows when, I'm sure.
 
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