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Not sure how you made the jump from my post to thinking I think science is "settled"?? I even cited my friend's father continuing his experiments and studies 10-15 long years after retirement...on his own dime. I merely suggested that one should go directly to the most reputable accredited institutions for the most accurate info. They ARE to be trusted. For example, one should never simply type testicular cancer in a search engine. You'd be better off first typing "world's top ten cancer research institutes", then go to their sites And continue your search. 1/2 the info on the net seems to be reverse engineered "science" that started w/ the finding's preferred outcome. That's not reputable info, much less science! It once used to mean something to be...published. Today, it seems anyone w/ a tinfoil hat sitting in their mom's basement typing up the latest entry in their blog has equal say to the leading researchers at Hopkins, Sloan Kettering, Stanford, Oxford, Yale, MIT, etc. 🤪 Science is indeed a never ending quest, but one, in the very least, should always start w/ a world renown reputable source. If my mother needed brain surgery and during the consultation, I saw a framed diploma from DeVry University on the wall, I'm grabbing her arm and getting the hell out of there, as would anyone here!😉
Karl Popper on the scientific method is a good, though heavy read.
 

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On the top of every 6-foot step ladder is a warning.

“This is not a step”. Along a graphic of a guy busting it. Still, I have stood atop that “step”, and I’ll bet others on this thread have as well!
if you only knew....:LOL: I find myself freestanding on the top of A frame ladders regularly. Including 14 foot'ers.Nothing, and I mean nothing has ever made me more anxious then when I was painting bridges on the Capitol Beltway. There is a train bridge I painted right before the Mormon Tabernacle (which loosely resembles the Disney castle) where for my entire childhood had a big spray painted moniker "Surrender Dorothy" across it. It was known by everyone is the DC area. In fact, if you type Surrender Dorthy in an image search, a pic of that bridge will always come up. Well....I'm the one that painted over that! :p I was on a hydraulic scissor lift truck, extended to it's max......every time a truck drove by the top of the scissor lift would sway back and forth. But....to paint this one bridge required setting an extension ladder on top of the deck of the scissor lift...and leaning it against the side of the bridge. So....I'm in a full tyvek suit, goggles and respirator, holding a spray gun with 30-40 ft of hose going all the way to the ground... standing near the top rung of a 24 ft extension ladder, the bottom of which is swaying back and forth...likely by up to 6-12 inches every time a tractor trailer wizzed by in the lane next to our lane closure. THEN...on top of that, every 15 min a train would go by....causing the whole ladder to vibrate like the coin operated bed in a 1970's Dirty Curtain INN!! That was my summer night job in 98. Most money per hr I've ever earned. NEVER again!!

I'm sure someone here from the DC area will chime in on Surrender Dorothy. I catch hell every time I tell someone I'm the one who painted over it.:LOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_Dorothy
 
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Anyone think there is a disparity between the average IQ of LTG members versus TGP members? ( excluding LTG members from the TGP population)

This thread would have already imploded on TGP. Some of the comments on this thread are quite thoughtful and it is refreshing.

I hear that at least half of them (TGP) are below average intelligence. Arithmetic mean ha ha.
 

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Kind of a veer but I remember reading an article about differences in documentation here in the USA vs. anywhere else, mostly Europe. Due to the litiginous nature of USA, the Husqvarna company in Sweden noted that they sell their chain saws in Europe with a short page of instructions. When exported to the USA they have a 16 page handbook full of mostly useless things like, "Do not hold the chain saw by the chain while it is running!!" because if they didn't they'd be held liable for any such accidents. Such is the ridiculousness of our times and sadly, our country. :eek:
I agree that failure to warn cases often seem silly. But imagine a chainsaw that does not contain a safety mechanism that is cheap and available. The lack of the mechanism contributes to a 23 year old father losing an arm. Yes I am a lawyer, but I was mainly a defense lawyer, and I have seen many cases where litigation was fair and also served a larger purpose. A consumer has a right to expect a product to be safe for normal uses. The one ladder case I was involved in had life altering injuries, but the guy was standing on the top rung. Jury awarded nothing. In my experience juries usually get it right.
 

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Anyone think there is a disparity between the average IQ of LTG members versus TGP members? ( excluding LTG members from the TGP population)

This thread would have already imploded on TGP. Some of the comments on this thread are quite thoughtful and it is refreshing.

I hear that at least half of them (TGP) are below average intelligence. Arithmetic mean ha ha.
TGP? The Gear Page? The Led Zep collectors forum I've been on for close to 20 yrs, we have a lot of musicians on there and The Gear Page is sometimes referred to a The Kiddie Table. :ROFLMAO: Definitely some knowledgeable folks there, but it's overrun by too many wannabes who are ALL gear, NO talent. Or NO gear, NO talent.
 

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TGP? The Gear Page? The Led Zep collectors forum I've been on for close to 20 yrs, we have a lot of musicians on there and The Gear Page is sometimes referred to a The Kiddie Table. :ROFLMAO: Definitely some knowledgeable folks there, but it's overrun by too many wannabes who are ALL gear, NO talent. Or NO gear, NO talent.
Let's keep the forum bashing to a minimum. Thanks.
 

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TGP? The Gear Page? The Led Zep collectors forum I've been on for close to 20 yrs, we have a lot of musicians on there and The Gear Page is sometimes referred to a The Kiddie Table. :ROFLMAO: Definitely some knowledgeable folks there, but it's overrun by too many wannabes who are ALL gear, NO talent. Or NO gear, NO talent.

Not sure about all of Europe, but in several countries I know that if you sue someone, and you lose in court, YOU are responsible for paying your legal fees, THEIR legal fees, and all court costs!! That alone would stop over 1/2 of America's BS litigation in it's tracks! If only we could only adopt such a method here in the US!!
Thats the attitude until its your ox in the ditch and you need a lawyer. I have seen it over and over. On the whole we have a good system. I would hate to see the system go down for people who need it, based on some "horror" stories. Unless you are a billionaire and immune to the luck of the draw, its in your interest to support the system. Your right to a jury is going away. I was a trial lawyer, but mainly defended companies. When you see a huge verdict, there is usually a reason. But the Chamber of Commerce wont tell you that. Like the McDonalds exec who was arrogant and dismissive of an elderly woman who had to have skin grafts because of the much hotter than normal coffee. The same case McDonalds could have settled for some medical bills. Its a favorite urban legend, but I know what really happened in that case.

I am not trying to have an argument with you. I am trying to say that frequently issues are complex, and what we hear is often concocted to sway our opinions. I no longer practice so my living does not depend on what I am saying. Please keep an open mind. I saw a lot more justice meted out than crazy results. And the crazy results are often fixed on appeal by reducing the judgment. When people give away their right to a jury, they wont get it back.

I am on a tear tonight and will go back in hibernation. I enjoy the maturity and intelligence of this forum - otherwise I wouldnt waste words. So I mean no offense- I actually think you may listen to me.

Peace
 

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I'm sure someone here from the DC area will chime in on Surrender Dorothy. I catch hell every time I tell someone I'm the one who painted over it.:LOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_Dorothy

Get your glove out since I will throw something your way. My recollection is that it was painted and painted over more than once since the late 70's but your effort may have been the final word. I always wondered how it got painted since I'm not a climber. I was sad every time it got painted over but I will acknowledge that you were not personally responsible :)
 

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Thats the attitude until its your ox in the ditch and you need a lawyer. I have seen it over and over. On the whole we have a good system. I would hate to see the system go down for people who need it, based on some "horror" stories. Unless you are a billionaire and immune to the luck of the draw, its in your interest to support the system. Your right to a jury is going away. I was a trial lawyer, but mainly defended companies. When you see a huge verdict, there is usually a reason. But the Chamber of Commerce wont tell you that. Like the McDonalds exec who was arrogant and dismissive of an elderly woman who had to have skin grafts because of the much hotter than normal coffee. The same case McDonalds could have settled for some medical bills. Its a favorite urban legend, but I know what really happened in that case.

I am not trying to have an argument with you. I am trying to say that frequently issues are complex, and what we hear is often concocted to sway our opinions. I no longer practice so my living does not depend on what I am saying. Please keep an open mind. I saw a lot more justice meted out than crazy results. And the crazy results are often fixed on appeal by reducing the judgment. When people give away their right to a jury, they wont get it back.

I am on a tear tonight and will go back in hibernation. I enjoy the maturity and intelligence of this forum - otherwise I wouldnt waste words. So I mean no offense- I actually think you may listen to me.

Peace
I agree with you on the whole, and our legal system is indeed in place to protect people. But I've also been called for jury duty three times in my life, all three times being outright frivolous cases in my honest opinion. The craziest being a woman who ten years after the fact was sueing a guy she was once in a car accident with. That accident was already settled. Her car was replaced, and all her medical bills were paid in full. Her claim was that her knee injury prevented her from playing tennis, causing her to gain weight, in turn causing her husband to no longer lust for her, in turn resulting in a divorce. She wanted $100,000. Most of the jurors were ready to give her most of that. I wasn't. It was an unavoidable accident. Wasn't negligent, or nefarious by any means. To ruin someone who already doesn't have much, for...an accident, on the grounds of not being able to play tennis (something already terrible on the knees) and marital problems where the real cause can't be proven. I called BS to the rest of the jurors. I think she got around 6-8 thousand. IMO, much more than she should have. I remember her and her lawyer walking out of the court room completely incensed. I went home feeling an abuse of the legal system has been deterred.
 

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Get your glove out since I will throw something your way. My recollection is that it was painted and painted over more than once since the late 70's but your effort may have been the final word. I always wondered how it got painted since I'm not a climber. I was sad every time it got painted over but I will acknowledge that you were not personally responsible :)
I lived in Silver Spring in the mid 90's, and remember the grafitti well. Along with Cool "Disco" Dan. However, I'm old and curmudgeonly, and will hold Midnight Toker personally responsible. ;) Have you never heard of civil disobedience? 😸
 
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I'm shocked when people with PhDs sometimes say such BONDS that 5 minutes of talking to them makes me feel bad. But these are trifles. Have any of you read recent Russian news?
 
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Fake news often appears on social networks. Someone spreads them intentionally to get attention. It's a way for them to make their page more popular and get people to comment on their page. I don't like this kind of promotion. It doesn't seem fair to me to cheat my audience, and it's easier to buy subscribers at megafamous.com and develop my blog.
Although maybe I'm wrong, and these people really did believe the conspiracy theories about the snake origin of Covid-19. Lol, this news just drives me crazy, like people have nothing better to do.
 
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Not sure about all of Europe, but in several countries I know that if you sue someone, and you lose in court, YOU are responsible for paying your legal fees, THEIR legal fees, and all court costs!! That alone would stop over 1/2 of America's BS litigation in it's tracks! If only we could only adopt such a method here in the US!!
In the U.S., the loser of a civil case normally pays court costs, which typically do not amount to that much. The opposing side's attorney fees typically amount to a lot, but the loser does not normally have to pay for those unless the judge rules that the case was entirely frivolous or retaliatory or brought in bad faith. Otherwise, each side pays its own attorney fees. There are many exceptions, but one major exception is cases involving civil rights, where a private attorney is essentially acting as a U.S. Attorney, and if the case goes to trial and is successful, the plaintiff's attorney is also awarded attorney fees from the loser.

I'm not an attorney, but here's a case I assisted on for the plaintiff. The defense fought hard against this case, and it went on for nearly 10 years! We nominally won the case for our client -- the jury gave her something like $15,000. Then we asked the court for attorney fees, which amounted to nearly half a million bucks at that point. The defense thought their initial "offer of judgment" meant they didn't have to pay attorney fees. Problem was, I noticed that they had made their offer of judgment before the case had been filed. So it was basically invalid. The boss got his half million, I got a fair-sized bonus and promptly retired. (I'd just been waiting for this matter to resolve.) Never a dull moment in that law office!
 

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A song popped in my mind:

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All the voyeurs and the lawyers who can pull a fountain pen
And put you where they choose with the language that they use
And enslave you 'til you work your youth away
Oh god how I worked my youth away.
 

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Back in the early 90s yes about 30 years ago when I was first exposed to the internet we though that the sharing of information would quickly lead to greater knowledge and improved decision making for all mankind. Now only a few decades later it looks like the sharing of stupidity and misinformation is leading mankind in the opposite direction!
 

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Back in the early 90s yes about 30 years ago when I was first exposed to the internet we though that the sharing of information would quickly lead to greater knowledge and improved decision making for all mankind. Now only a few decades later it looks like the sharing of stupidity and misinformation is leading mankind in the opposite direction!
Isn't that the truth!
 

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Now only a few decades later it looks like the sharing of stupidity and misinformation is leading mankind in the opposite direction!

Ouch, ouch, yeah ummm.... it is tragically noticeable, but can you imagine not knowing the difference, reading all this blarney and believing it?
 
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