Was the F65ce-rb - a limited edition?

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Westerly Guild guitars says the F65ce-rb was a limited edition Guild.

It's blue & has some turquoise inlays that are different from other F65ce's.
But I can find no mention of it in the serial number lists. It's my understanding
that mine was made in 2000. The serial number lists go through 1999.
I don't have the serial number yet.

Does anyone know where I can find out

1. Was it actually a limited edition?

2. How limited?

a. When did production start & stop?

b. How many were made?

3. Are there any serial number lists that go beyond 1999?
 

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That's not the one I bought. No pics of it yet.

The turquoise triangles on the bridge point a different direction
from the inlaid turquoise triangles on the fretboard.

You think it's a mod?
 

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marcellis said:
That's not the one I bought. No pics of it yet.

The turquoise triangles on the bridge point a different direction
from the inlaid turquoise triangles on the fretboard.

You think it's a mod?

I'm not sure. It seems like I've seen those inlaid bridges on a couple of other Guilds.....D130 maybe? It is unique, and in my opinion, doesn't match the top at all.......kinda strange. Hans? If yours doesn't have that inlay, I'd say the one on Tim's site has been modified.

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marcellis said:
Westerly Guild guitars says the F65ce-rb was a limited edition Guild.

Hello Marcellis,

1. Was it actually a limited edition?

No, the F65CE-RB was not a 'Limited Edition' as in a separate series with individually numbered instruments. It was part of a bigger series with several variations and with a somewhat limited availability.

2. How limited?

See question 1. It was limited by the amount of people who were willing to pay the difference in price compared to a regular F-65CE.

a. When did production start & stop? b. How many were made?
Production started in the mid-'90s and I don't think there was an official stop.
The series shared the same serial number system with the regular F65CE, so there are no separate numbers available.

3. Are there any serial number lists that go beyond 1999?

Yes, there is one but it's not ready for publication. However, the F65CE-RB that you've bought was most likely not made after 1999.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
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Thanks Hans.

That answered my questions. Slightly different model within the same series of serial numbers as the F65ce.
So it will be hard to determine exactly how many *RB's were made until the New Testament comes out.

Looking forward to it.
 

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marcellis said:
Slightly different model within the same series of serial numbers as the F65ce.
So it will be hard to determine exactly how many *RB's were made until the New Testament comes out.

No, it will not be possible to determine the exact amount unless you're able to find all the individual F65CEs that have been produced and have counted the ones that are different.

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Thanks for everything Hans.

Looking forward to buying the book - 2 copies minimum.
One for me - one for my son.
 

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Hi Marcellis, when I got mine it had a flag on it "Last of the Westerlys". Just like you when I went to check the official listing on the Guild website mine was out of range . I faxed an inquiry to the location in Scottsdale AZ (kinda hoping the sign was true!) and got an answer back in like 2 days. Turns out it was "the last of the Westerlys that dealer had" . I'm at work and don't remember for sure but I think my s/n ends in like 052 and they said it was part of a group of 3 that shipped from Westerly in 2001. I'm pretty sure the highest number they had a record of was 058. Hope that gives you a lead and/or if you want me to check that letter again (I just did like a week ago) and confirm I'd be happy to.
 

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adorshki said:
Hi Marcellis, when I got mine it had a flag on it "Last of the Westerlys". Just like you when I went to check the official listing on the Guild website mine was out of range . I faxed an inquiry to the location in Scottsdale AZ (kinda hoping the sign was true!) and got an answer back in like 2 days. Turns out it was "the last of the Westerlys that dealer had" . I'm at work and don't remember for sure but I think my s/n ends in like 052 and they said it was part of a group of 3 that shipped from Westerly in 2001. I'm pretty sure the highest number they had a record of was 058. Hope that gives you a lead and/or if you want me to check that letter again (I just did like a week ago) and confirm I'd be happy to.

Hello adorshki,

We have a little misunderstanding here. It's not that Marcellis cannot date his guitar.
He doesn't have a serial number yet, but he thinks it is a guitar from the year 2000 for which he cannot find the serial numbers on the Guild website. I do have the correct serial numbers for the entire Westerly period, so I should be able to help him. However, I do not think that Marcellis will need to look at the serial numbers from 2000 because I believe his guitar was made during the mid-'90s.

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Hi Hans; no worries, it was more to let folks know about an avenue that might still be available since I didn't know how extensive your info is. Are there supposed to be any date stamps on late build guitars? I couldn't find one whwere I expected it (heelblock) when I got mine.
Al
 

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adorshki said:
Hi Hans; no worries, it was more to let folks know about an avenue that might still be available since I didn't know how extensive your info is. Are there supposed to be any date stamps on late build guitars? I couldn't find one whwere I expected it (heelblock) when I got mine.
Al

Hello Al,

If your guitar is from the year 2001, it should not have a date on the neckblock.

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Hi. I got a photo of the serial number. I can't find it in the lists though.

The photo is not clear - but I'm confident it reads "AF651172".

It says Westerly R.I. also.
 

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marcellis said:
Hi. I got a photo of the serial number. I can't find it in the lists though.

The photo is not clear - but I'm confident it reads "AF651172".

It says Westerly R.I. also.

Hello marcellis,

That number is much higher than I suspected. It is a serial number from 2001, which to me sounds really late. I'm not saying it's impossible though. Can you show me the picture with the serial number? If you can't post it, go ahead and mail it to me.

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I didn't know there were that many made.

But I love the blue! Wow - what a nice color!
This guitar was in a pawn shop marked down from $699 to $500!
I couldn't pass it up.

The pics were all cut off. An Guild owner & HC member was kind enough
to pick this guitar up for me & take the pics. Thanks Skippy & thanks Hans, for the info!

blueguitar1.jpg


blueguitar2.jpg


blueguitar3.jpg
 

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Beauty! That's the same blue as the 12-string JF-30 I just bought, with "Limited Edition" etched onto the truss rod cover.

Cheers!
Glenn//.
 

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YAH GORGEOUS! I am so jealous! Do you think rb maybe means "royal blue"? Bridge looks better without the little diamonds.
Ya think now that you have two they might be a breeding pair? :lol:
CONGRATS!
 

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That's a good point. The Westerly Guild Guitars site shows little turquoise triangles
point out on their specimen. This one doesn't have them. I'm glad it doesn't.

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hansmoust said:
marcellis said:
Hi. I got a photo of the serial number. I can't find it in the lists though.

The photo is not clear - but I'm confident it reads "AF651172".

It says Westerly R.I. also.

Hello marcellis,

That number is much higher than I suspected. It is a serial number from 2001, which to me sounds really late.

Hello again marcellis,

First of all, congratulations. That's a cool looking guitar. I hope you will enjoy playing it.

Having said that I should add that this guitar is not what we've been discussing on this thread, meaning it's not an F65CE-RB.

As I told you in my earlier posting, the serial number on this guitar is much higher than I suspected. Do you remember what I told you in my Private Message to you?

hansmoust said:
The series were only listed for a very short time and I would think the lack of orders were the reason the series didn't continue.
At the end of 1995 Guild was sold to Fender and a few may have been sold after that but those were most likely instruments already started before the Fender takeover. After that the F65CE was still available in the same color variations but without the matching 'stone' inlays.

This is one of those guitars. It has the Blue finish that the F65CE-RB had as well, but it doesn't have the turquoise inlays in the fingerboard and on the bridge. As you can see it doesn't say F65CE-RB on the label either and it has the regular abalone triangles in the fingerboard. It's a regular F65CE with a 'Sapphire Blue' finish from 2001.
That solves the 'too high serial number for an F65CE-RB' problem.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
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