Thoughts on this?

[cupric]

DeArmond M-77 Fender Squier Guild Bluesbird Korea Rare Series 24 Les Paul 2002 | eBay

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[GAD]

FWIW I paid $800 for one of my Westerly Bluesbirds.

 

[walrus]

I love the finish color and the overall look of the guitar! Maybe make an offer if you are interested?

walrus

 

[Nuuska]

The price seems high - over here is for sale almost identical - different colour - for 300€

 

[matsickma]

This is not a DeArmond/ Squire model that is a valuable collector item. If you like it "because you like it" then its a "keeper" to enjoy. However don't anticipate being able to resell it without a significant discount. I think the Squire name, although harder to come across, has a lower market value than DeArmond. The guitar also doesn't come with the prized Gold Tone pickups.

My 2¢!

M

 

[LeFinPepere]

I paid 475 $ for my Dearmond m75.

 

[cupric]

I am not in the market. But I saw this and wondered if these are a good prospect for someone. If I was buying anything it would be a Songbird. Hope to in the near future.
Thank you all for the knowledge.

 

[adorshki]

I am not in the market. But I saw this and wondered if these are a good prospect for someone. If I was buying anything it would be a Songbird. Hope to in the near future.
Thank you all for the knowledge.

You could do worse.

Have you seen this one?


IIRC think they're tuned down down a step, too, adds a bit of that "sitar" timbre.

 

[Bonneville88]

Agree with Mat, and I now have several nice examples of set-neck DeArmonds and Squiers.
The remarkable (for the price) build quality / finish seems pretty much the same between them,
but the DeArmond Gold Tone pickups to my novice (and aging) ears seem to have some additional and
distinctive sonic character than the perhaps more generic(?) "Duncan Designed" pickups on the
Squiers. Still, I'd consider buying that burst if the price was right and it came with a good hard-shell case.

What's a reasonable price? IMO, closer to the range of the example in the Reverb link below, in excellent condition with HSC.
But - unmolested, orginal DeArmond M70s, 72s, 75s and 77s, in VG-to-excellent condition, with
DeArmond made-in-USA pickups, are also out there in the same price range.

Squier Series 24 M-77 | Reverb

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[cupric]

You could do worse.

Have you seen this one?


IIRC think they're tuned down down a step, too, adds a bit of that "sitar" timbre.

Very cool!

 

[cupric]

Agree with Mat, and I now have several nice examples of set-neck DeArmonds and Squiers.
The remarkable (for the price) build quality / finish seems pretty much the same between them,
but the DeArmond Gold Tone pickups to my novice (and aging) ears seem to have some additional and
distinctive sonic character than the the perhaps more generic(?) "Duncan Designed" pickups on the
Squiers. Still, I'd consider buying that burst if the price was right and it came with a good hard-shell case.

What's a reasonable price? IMO, closer to the range of the example in the Reverb link below, in excellent condition with HSC.
But - unmolested, orginal DeArmond M70s, 72s, 75s and 77s, in VG-to-excellent condition, with
DeArmond made-in-USA pickups, are also out there in the same price range.

Squier Series 24 M-77 | Reverb

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I remember there was a lot of fanfare for the gold foil pickups back when they were rereleased. The Price point of the guitars were very reasonable. It had a slight negative connotation . They were viewed as cheap guitars by some. As a result of the high volume sold, and the entry level price, there was a time they were perhaps the least expensive used guitars out there.

 

[Bonneville88]

I've read many variations of DeArmond guitar history, my understanding is that
they were an abject sales failure in their time.
A couple of decades later, asking prices for the nicer set-neck DeArmonds seem to be rising somewhat lately,
but that may be true for many good quality used MIK instruments.

 

[SFIV1967]

This whole story about "re-badging" DeArmond guitars to Squier guitars is a... well "story"... How can something be "re-badged" if it has a total different shape?

DeArmond M-77 vs. Squire M-77:



Ralf

 

[Bonneville88]

Right - there was rebranding, using different necks with the distinctive Squier headstock.
I have wondered - did any guitar bodies that would have otherwise become DeArmonds
become Squiers instead? Suppose I could break out the calipers and depth gauges and
start measuring and noting the differences beyond the obvious...

 

[matsickma]

I always assumed the Dearmond to Squire evolution was a settling point for the lower end "Guild" guitars that added a 24.5" scale neck with the Guild body shape to give Fender a low price model to compete with the Gibson Les Paul shaped lower priced Epiphone guitars.

That red M77 Squire with a case for $425 + shipping looks like a reasonable deal.
M

 

[Bonneville88]

Mat, didn't know that about the 24.5" scale neck - interesting!
Agreed, that M77 Squier is perilously close to the sweet spot

Here's a good current comparison - if you were in a buying mood, which one would you choose?
The DeArmond M77 @ $399 + $79 shipping, no case or bag, a good quality case that fits the
current Guild bluesbird / M75 body shape is $150, vs the Squier M77 at $425 + $80 shipping,
includes a decent hard-shell case.
Condition of both instruments appears comparable.

DeArmond M-77 Set-Neck 2001 Made in Korea (In-Store Price $399) | Reverb

Excellent Condition Solid Body w/ Candy Apple Red Metallic Finish Rosewood Fretboard Tune-o-matic Style Bridge Killer Sounding DeArmond Branded Pickups

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[matsickma]

Hey Bonneville88,

Out of curiosity was the V8 in your car a 400 cu in? Loved my dad's '67!

Tough call.

As a Guild guy I would pick the red M77 because of the headstock shape and GoldTone pickups. (I also owned a blue M77 at one time and liked the chrome+ gold hardware. I think the red color looks better than the blue.)

However...all things equal I would pick the Squire with case. I do like the unusual fancy neck fret markers.

M

 

[Bonneville88]

Hah! I could create a rationale for either one, too

I'd totally rock a '67 Bonneville - what a ride, wonder if it'd fit in my garage - the
Bonneville88 in my handle comes from my motorcycle daze though...

 

[matsickma]

Haha... wasn't thinking of a motorcycle! Yea the Pontiac's of that era advertised with Delorian's description of the low "wide track" automobile on the highway. Not a car to go "parking" with on a dirt road!
M

 

[Bonneville88]

Can't believe this was a car commercial - and it's on a dirt road