Tbird copy

[GGJaguar]

The headstock shape on this Eastwood isn't quite "wild" enough, but I like the idea of a Jag/J-master trem better than a Tremar.

 

[Default]

Oh, I remember those guys had a copy of an Astro Jet, until Gretsch hit them with a restraining order.

 

[walrus]

Oh, I remember those guys had a copy of an Astro Jet, until Gretsch hit them with a restraining order.

Is this Eastwood "restraining order worthy" for Guild?

walrus

 

[Default]

<shrug>
Idk, I haven't been paying attention to Guild's product line for a while, so I don't know if they will bother or not.

 

[DrumBob]

I just unsubscribed to Eastwood's emails. I have finally grown tired of their routine; copy old designs, have them built cheap with questionable quality, and sell them for three times what they're worth. No more and no thanks.

 

[Prince of Darkness]

Not that I'm happy about it, but I think this is pretty shrewd of Eastwood Plenty of Les Paul, SG, Strat', Tele', etc. copies out there, but if you copy something a bit more obscure and quirky it's more likely to be noticed and most people will not even know it's a copy! With the original dating back to the mid 1960's, I doubt that Guild could do anything about it.

 

[fronobulax]

With the original dating back to the mid 1960's, I doubt that Guild could do anything about it.

Even lawyers have a hard time looking at an instrument and various trademarks and deciding whether the instrument violates a trademark or not. So it might not be worth the effort to prove infringement. But it is also true that trademarks and copyrights can be renewed so infringement of the 60's design might be prosecutable based upon what was done to protect the modern reissue.

My direct experience with intellectual property litigation that actually made it to court is very limited but going to court is generally the last resort and only if there is potential to be awarded litigation costs as well as damages. A phone call, cease and desist letter and the threat of litigation are more likely to be tried first.

That said, some companies have lost trademarks precisely because they failed to defend them in court.

As a veer, this is interesting.

Taser, Xerox, Popsicle, and 31 more brands-turned-household names

Google, Taser, and Xerox are all examples of brand names that have become generic words for a type of product. The process is known as genericization, and in some cases, it can result in companies losing their trademark.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Nuuska]

My favorite on that field = Magnetofon - Early AEG name for tape recorder.

I never worked w or @ AEG - but spent two lovely summers in Switzerland @ Willi Studer Gmbh.

Boy o boy those Feierabends in Altstadt Zürich.

 

[Prince of Darkness]

Hoover = Vacuum cleaner.
Tannoy = Public address system.
Breville = Sandwich toaster.

 

[fronobulax]

Hoover = Vacuum cleaner.
Tannoy = Public address system.
Breville = Sandwich toaster.

Acknowledging the joke that the US and UK are countries separated by a common language, this is interesting.

I know Hoover and it gets used as a verb - "They hoovered that bowl of popcorn in 30 seconds!"

I've heard Tannoy but only as a brand. I've always been around people who say PA or variations.

I've never heard of Breville and am not sure I even have a word for "sandwich toaster". Maybe toaster-oven?

Thanks.

 

[Nuuska]

Like Frono - I do not understand Tannoy being synonym to pa system.

Old well-known hifi-speaker manufacturer.

 

[fronobulax]

Like Frono - I do not understand Tannoy being synonym to pa system.

Old well-known hifi-speaker manufacturer.

I suspect they just didn't sell a lot of systems in the US or Finland or if they did, they did their job so well that no one knew who made the system. It may also be that "public address system" means different things to the riders on a train platform and the performers in a stage setting

I'm reminded of the 1960's when "Fender bass" was sometimes used as if it were synonymous with "electric bass guitar". I heard and saw it a lot from older band leaders who knew there was an alternative to a stand up bass but didn't really know what to call it. I also seem to recall recording credits where Fender bass meant the player had used a Fender Precision. Those who didn't were just credited as "bass".

 

[Nuuska]

Tannoy got involved w live sound @ 1984 with their Wildcat-line - none of those was BIG pa-systems - more like small club sets or travelling band sets. Good sound quality - what else - concidering their history. But nothing for 1000+ audiences.

Maybe it is some inside joke in Scotland?

Like company Philips - they have a fantastic reputation - unknown to major public - with their scientific electronic devices and component production. But most people recognize them by the cheap-o-cheap radios and tape recorders that ate their favourite cassette tape.

I have lived the time when JBL meant the best there is. Today it is not that rare to hear someone say : "I have never heard any good sounding JBL."

Marketing w targeting can make wonders happen . . .

 

[sailingshoes72]

I suspect they just didn't sell a lot of systems in the US or Finland or if they did, they did their job so well that no one knew who made the system. It may also be that "public address system" means different things to the riders on a train platform and the performers in a stage setting

I'm reminded of the 1960's when "Fender bass" was sometimes used as if it were synonymous with "electric bass guitar". I heard and saw it a lot from older band leaders who knew there was an alternative to a stand up bass but didn't really know what to call it. I also seem to recall recording credits where Fender bass meant the player had used a Fender Precision. Those who didn't were just credited as "bass".

I’ve got a copy of Roy Clark’s first album released in 1962 on Capitol… “The Lightening Fingers of Roy Clark”. I was always amused at the reference to “Fender Bass” in the credits as indicating an electric bass guitar.

 

[Prince of Darkness]

Acknowledging the joke that the US and UK are countries separated by a common language, this is interesting.

I know Hoover and it gets used as a verb - "They hoovered that bowl of popcorn in 30 seconds!"

I've heard Tannoy but only as a brand. I've always been around people who say PA or variations.

I've never heard of Breville and am not sure I even have a word for "sandwich toaster". Maybe toaster-oven?

Thanks.

I don't think the term Tannoy is widely used for PA systems anymore (announcements rather than music), but it used to be very commonly used throughout the UK.
Here's a Breville

 

[chazmo]

Acknowledging the joke that the US and UK are countries separated by a common language, this is interesting.

I know Hoover and it gets used as a verb - "They hoovered that bowl of popcorn in 30 seconds!"

I've heard Tannoy but only as a brand. I've always been around people who say PA or variations.

I've never heard of Breville and am not sure I even have a word for "sandwich toaster". Maybe toaster-oven?

Thanks.

So true!

Fro, that article caught most of the ones I knew about (and some I didn't).