T250 Roy Buchanan

[Guildedagain]

Popped up on my feed, glad somebody here got it, literally ;]

Effin gorgeous CAR, seriously undervalued guitar in insane condition and not a ten pounder, you done well.

 

[AcornHouse]

The serial number on the back of the neck appears to be off of a S280/281? The plot thickens!

With my (now Default’s) T-250, it had a similar S280etc. neck, which Hans confirmed was used on these.

 

[Default]

Shame of it is they seem to use standard sized knock pockets on these and the later Guild necks are thinner and have smaller radius corners. So if you don't like the droop snoot headstocks, you either have to get very lucky, or order a custom neck from somewhere.

 

[tonepoet]

Just kicking this thread back to life with a photo of my red "cake knife" T-250. It has the stock DiMarzio passive pickups. This one may be #192 of the alleged 211 made.

-tonepoet

 

[matsickma]

Interesting to see your T250 with Cake knife headstock and chrome hardware and passive pickups.

When the Westerly facility closed down a number of people were selling Guild parts from the factory. I bought a number of items from a guy in TX who told me he had purchased two pallets of parts. One of the items he was selling was chrome T250 parts. I thought was a bit odd as I had only seen gold hardware but after a while I found a black body chrome hardware T250. Sold it many years ago as I kept a sunburst T250. But that was an odd model at the time. The headstock on the chrome T250 was the initial offset "shredded" version which I don't really care for on a T250. One of these days I may swap out a Detonator neck for the stock offset version just "because"!
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[tonepoet]

Hi matsickma, I agree about the pointy headstocks on the T-250s. They always looked like an odd-duck to me. Just not quite right to see with a Tele body. When I got it 22 years ago on eBay it was listed as "Guild Telecaster". No information anywhere about it. It was a couple of years before I knew it was a T-250. It's been in storage for awhile. I recall not being too crazy about the DiMarzio stacked humbucker they put in the neck position, but that it had a great feeling neck to play. I should get it out and play it again.

 

[Westerly Wood]

Guild’s version of a telecaster?

 

[DrumBob]

I had one of those at one point. It didn't stick around too long. Nice guitar, but I wanted a real Telecaster.

 

[Rocky]

With my (now Default’s) T-250, it had a similar S280etc. neck, which Hans confirmed was used on these.

That makes sense. I had a T-200 and an S-280 (with the 'foot' style headstock) at one point, and swapped the necks for a while because I hated the headstock on the T-200.

 

[GAD]

I have one in black that looks just like the one @tonepoet posted. Makes me wonder if the bridge pickup is original after all.

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[Rocky]

If the neck was replaced, why would it have the original truss rod cover, and where are the holes for the removed lock nut?

 

[tonepoet]

I have one in black that looks just like the one @tonepoet posted. Makes me wonder if the bridge pickup is original after all.

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GAD: Nice looking T-250. What makes you think that your bridge pickup isn't original? Does yours also have the Lady Liberty neck plate?

 

[GAD]

GAD: Nice looking T-250. What makes you think that your bridge pickup isn't original? Does yours also have the Lady Liberty neck plate?

Because until yours it was the first one I'd seen that looked like that.

 

[tonepoet]

Because until yours it was the first one I'd seen that looked like that.

Gotcha GAD. Most of them I have seen have the EMGs and pointy headstock.

 

[matsickma]

I must correct myself. In further review of this guitar I believe it is one of the few T-200's and they came stock with a TRC with Roy B's name.

The T200 had a body and cutaway horn that is longer than the T250. The T200 is a closer match to a standard Tele body shape. The top of the cutaway horn on a T250 is parallel to high "b" fret and the T200 cutaway horn is parallel to the high "a" fret.

I have to pull out the template I made that copied the body outline of both models to provide a more obvious comparison. I'll try to find it this weekend.
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[matsickma]

A few more pictures with the T200 vs T250 template I made years ago when I had both versions.
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[matsickma]

I have one in black that looks just like the one @tonepoet posted. Makes me wonder if the bridge pickup is original after all.

Edit - pic:

Hey GAD, it looks to me that you have a T200 body with a replaced neck. However with Guild it hard to be sure that they didn't use up a left over T200 body and install the newer neck. The bridge pickup is the odd item as historically either EMG or a DiMarzio stacked humbucker was used. With the stacked humbucker being a passive pickup and not a bright as a normal tele bridge pup it would have been a easy mod to replace the DiMarzio stacked HB with a traditional tele style bridge single coil pup.
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[matsickma]

The red guitar is definitly a T250. The T-200 Roy B model has a longer cutaway horn. I just happened to be looking at a template I made of the T-200 and T-250 when I owned both models at the same time.

The neck is correct even it has another model SN. I believe the cake knife head stock was only installed on the last of the T-250's sold.
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I have to change my opinion after looking more closely at the guitar and the body template I made of a T200 vs T250. Looks like that red beauty is a T200 body. The Roy B engraved TRC would be authentic. The Neck SN may have been replaced as the pointy headstocks have a tendency to break. Another indicator it was an earlier T200 is the back neck plate is a plain black painted version. Guitars made in 1986 were the first to use the gold plated and color annotated Statue neck plate as it indicated the company contributed $ to restore the statue from disrepair in preparation for it's 100 year anniversary from the French. Guitars after 1986 could have had a simple black plate or version.
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