So what made Guild the go to for 12 strings?

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I always thought it was weird how the Guild 6 string acoustics never garnered as much attention as the 12 strings. What did Guild do right with their 12’s that made them the go to if you wanted the best 12 string tone? It seems like I don’t really hear near the same enthusiasm for the Martin 12’s.
 

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When bluegrass singer Jimmy Martin was asked who his favorite singer was, he said, "George Jones." When asked why, he said, simply, "'Cause he's the best."

Guild's 12-strings, many of us feel, are the best. And while certain performers would have drawn attention to the brand, that's not why Guild 12-strings developed the reputation they have.

Of the major active guitar brands, then and now, Guild's 12-strings stood out. Performers recognized that fact and played their guitars, drawing attention to the brand.
 
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Maybe back in the day there weren't many choices for acoustic 12-strings other than budget brands like Stella. So Guild stood out not just in terms of sound but quality.
 

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When it comes to 6 strings acoustics, there are quite a few manufacturers, all bringing great guitars to the market.
When it comes to 12 strings, there's Guild, (or at least there was) and then there's the others. In the rear view mirror.
 

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For most of my life, I owned two guitars: an old Favilla classical that belonged to my mother, and a 1981 Ibanez Artwood AW-75 that I bought new my freshman summer in college. The Artwood 12 was (and is) wonderful, and compared favorably to every other 12-string I could afford at that time as a summer hire fixing printed Ademco Alarm company circuit boards. It also sounded and played better to me than the Martins I tried as well, and those I couldn't afford anyway.

Fast forward to 2007... I had been collecting Taylor guitars for a while and really enjoying the wood-centric aesthetic that Taylor has always been famous for. Also, I was starting to play a lot. I visited my local music store and hanging on the wall was a new F-512. I found it almost laughable with all that bling and that plasticy-looking, G-shield headstock. Then I played it and had one of those "Maxell blown away" moments. Holy shnikies! That was a watershed moment for me.

I went back to the store at least three times before that guitar landed on the 20% off sale rack and I bought it straight away. Over the months while I was dreaming about that guitar, I found LTG and learned that Guild was still alive, although many of the folks here at the time were serious Westerly fans and weren't interested in new Guilds. But we all had a lot of fun together, and it was a much cooler community, and really far more honest about their guitars, than the folks I used to talk to on other guitar forums.

Fast forward to 2020... Tacoma was shuttered in 2008. New Hartford in 2014. And then Guild was sold completely to Cordoba Music Group, and now Guilds are coming from Oxnard. We've seen a tremendous amount of churn even during my relatively recent attachment to Guild. But the brand still lives, and killer 12-strings (and others) are still being built.

So, I agree with the comments above about why, but it's also true that there's never been a bad period for Guild (12-strings included).
 

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I am certainly no expert or professional musician but I know what I love. I have owned a Martin HD28 and 00028EC for several years as my main instruments and think they are both great instruments. But to me neither of them give me the please I get while playing a Guild Jumbo 12 string and no other 12 string compares to a Guild Jumbo in my opinion.
 

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I had to sell my F512 because it hurt my fretting hand to play it - the action was superb but the neck was so wide that I could only play it for a few minutes until my hand would start to hurt, especially when playing barre chords.

But it sounded like a Steinway piano; unbelievable tone!
 

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I had to sell my F512 because it hurt my fretting hand to play it - the action was superb but the neck was so wide that I could only play it for a few minutes until my hand would start to hurt, especially when playing barre chords.

But it sounded like a Steinway piano; unbelievable tone!
I seen one of them behind glass at a GC in Houston. Looked like a fine 12 string.
 

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local GC had an F412 I could have picked up for $900 a few years back, shoulda done it just to re-sell it. It was in nice shape and sounded great.
 

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local GC had an F412 I could have picked up for $900 a few years back, shoulda done it just to re-sell it. It was in nice shape and sounded great.
Last time I seen one that cheap it had some structural problems.
 

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For many years, I wished that there was a 12 guitar that had the Guild sound and the Taylor neck,
I understand that Guild is now building this guitar.
I have never seen or played one you but would love to.
 

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Most 12 strings are real jangly and thin sounding. Most lack any real clarity. Guild made sure their 6 strings had clarity of voice and equal volume across all strings, and their 12 strings inherited the same blueprint. The same goal.

remember what CF Martin allegedly stated aloud to his son when hearing the first Guild 12 string: “Gosh darn it. Why didn’t we do that”?

and so it went.
 

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I’m not up on the history of the Guild 12 strings other then what I pick up here .

I had a Yamaha f112 for many years the bought a a Luna trinity 12 to have along side it . It had a cool sound hole design and was cheap,

I sold both 12’s during my time here and also found next 12 string here from Dapmdave ? Gosh smoke more crack Ray !!! I don’t hold long memory of things If I’m not around it it then much . Lol

anyway so I bought this F212XLCE not having played a guild 12 string and that’s because all of you kept saying how great Guild is ! Lmao

I believe one member thought I wouldn’t be happy with it knowing my love of Rosewood but I bought it and when I opened up the case I knew right away this was a nice guitar not a scratch on it but you could tell . Though it’s lacking bling you could tell it was well built and had a I’m a serious 12 string . Lol

so out of the case it comes tuning it up and BAM !!!! Mind blown ! This thing sound awesome . It’s tone is warm and seriously well balanced . Nothing over powering other strings .

I’ve played many 12 strings when I go music store hopping and not one to me sounds as good as mine I period . 😊

I have to play a 512 but I’m not ready for that one . I do have my eye on 12 Rosewood jumbo that might give me an idea of what to expect if I get it the main reason is it’s cost and I familiar with the brand as a owner . That might clue done of you in it’s not hard to guess . Lol
 

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I always thought it was weird how the Guild 6 string acoustics never garnered as much attention as the 12 strings. What did Guild do right with their 12’s that made them the go to if you wanted the best 12 string tone? It seems like I don’t really hear near the same enthusiasm for the Martin 12’s.
I own a Taylor GS and a Tacoma Baritone and they are fine instruments. I've played a whole bunch of Taylor and Tacoma 12 strings, and they played well and sounded nice. But I have played almost all of the more common Guild 12 strings from the 70's, 80's, and 90's, and they were ALL great. F-212, G-312, F-312, F-412, F-512, JF-30-12, D-25-12. The exception was the F-112 I played, but it was hard to play (needed a neck reset) and the sound was understandably smaller. You are more immersed in sound than hearing it. I am sure there are boutique makers who make great 12 strings, and I hear good things about Rainsongs. I really liked a Larrivee maple jumbo 12 I played once. But I haven't played a 12 string that compared to any of the jumbo or dread Guilds.

I do think part of the issue is that the '60's-'90's Guild 6- strings are severely underappreciated.
 
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