Prototype electric thinline?
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Guildedagain
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Looking somewhat Guildy to me. The back thing is aftermarket quite possibly. The 3pc neck construction and body look like a Guild Starfire iV early model, but the tuners are more Gibson like, single ring Klusons. The tailpiece looks like something you'd see on something really cheap like Stella, but the insert looks fairly legit.
Bridge style and knob don't look very Guild to me but just a reason to leaf through Hans's book and see and Guild bridges fall into two categories, Harp, and Guildsby. The harp on nearly forever, predating any double cutaway Starfire prototype, so that doesn't make any sense. Maybe more like the wrong parts.
Need to see the whole front, and front of headstock.
Leafed through the whole book, I don't see this shoddy of a bridge on anything Guild ever sold. Typical upstart underdog, their stuff is nicer than anyone else's.
Edit, Robert Lockwood Jr. SF-12 has a Stella like tailpiece on page 90.
Bridge style and knob don't look very Guild to me but just a reason to leaf through Hans's book and see and Guild bridges fall into two categories, Harp, and Guildsby. The harp on nearly forever, predating any double cutaway Starfire prototype, so that doesn't make any sense. Maybe more like the wrong parts.
Need to see the whole front, and front of headstock.
Leafed through the whole book, I don't see this shoddy of a bridge on anything Guild ever sold. Typical upstart underdog, their stuff is nicer than anyone else's.
Edit, Robert Lockwood Jr. SF-12 has a Stella like tailpiece on page 90.
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SFIV1967
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Welcome to LTG. Whatever that is it doesn't look anything Guild to me. And definitely no "prototype". It's something built together long time ago as it looks. Show us the front of the headstock and the full front of the body. The neck to body connection looks not Guild and the body shape is no Guild either. Maybe a Guild neck fitted on another body? Also the top wood and the back and sides don't match and would be nothing Guild did. No idea yet what it is without seeing more details.
Just to compare: That's a Guild Starfire 4, very different if you know what to look for:
Ralf
Just to compare: That's a Guild Starfire 4, very different if you know what to look for:
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Here you go....no features seem to match anything I can find in the Guild book or anywhere else https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/97513746_guild-serial-aj-3655
SFIV1967
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O.k., so it's a real Guild neck on some other manufacturers body. The tuners are not original to that neck.
The serial number AJ 3655 would make it a 1970 Guild D-40 acoustic guitar neck.
No other parts on the body are from Guild.
The ad also states: "THIS BEAUTIFUL GUITAR IS FROM ANTHONY "TONY HUNT'S PERSONAL COLLECTION. HE WAS A WELL KNOWN MAKER OF FINE HANDMADE GUITARS & ALL AROUND GUITAR ENTHUSIAST."
So obviously it was Anthony Baron Hunt (Tony Hunt or ABH as seen on some pickguards) who created this.
In this auction there are also some DeArmond Guild guitars where he puth Guild logos and his own logo on some parts like on the pickguards and on selfmade armrests. He obviously had some love for the Guild brand.
Some info about him: https://jedistar.com/hunt/
Otherwise he was talked about on the Mosrite forum.
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Look like somebody bought a disembodied neck and homebuilt the rest.
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I think we've seen that before... The pointy logo on the pickguard is looking familiar.
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AcornHouse
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If you look at the treble side horn, you can see that it’s curve is sort of squished at the top. Very amateurish, li,e the rest of the body. I concur that the neck may be Guild, but that’s about it.
Smiert Spionam
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In addition to all the other nonsense, those are Harmony knobs.
SFIV1967
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The neck is Guild...See my post #5.
Ralf
SFIV1967
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You might think about this one?
Ralf
SFIV1967
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That luthier had connections to Mosrite, so that would fit.
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Rambozo96
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I heard that for the Mosrite celebrity line of guitars Hofner supplied the bodies early on. Eventually they had a company prepress laminated maple sheets to the desired radius and they just cut tops and backs from that. I wished I had picked one up back when nobody really wanted them and thus you could snag em for under $1000 pretty much all day every day.
To each his own, I guess, but I don't care who built it, that is one ugly guitar. And the "squished" horn that Chris pointed out would set off my OCD in no time...
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SFIV1967
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There are already 5 bids at $450 currently...So some seem to think they like it.
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