Opinion Poll....Whadda ya think?

[The Guilds of Grot]

If the factory put on one of one style tuner and five of another, why would there be "old" holes?

 

[hansmoust]

There are a few other things that bother me but some of these can be explained.

Do tell!

Hello Grot,

Well, let's stick to the one thing that really bothers me:

The neck is not a '60s neck. Without holding the guitar in my hands it's hard to say what exactly did happen to that guitar but from the photos I would say it's a '70s neck on a body from the '60s.
I can't tell you exactly when the body was made but I would guess somewhere around 1963/1964.

The neck has all the features of a 'later than the sixties' Artist Award neck, the most obvious being:
Neck lamination, fingerboard inlays, fingerboard binding, headstock binding, headstock inlay plaque, truss rod cover etc. etc.

Now it is always possible that this was a factory repair ( it's not that easy to find an Artist Award neck) but on most of the factory repairs the serial number would be copied onto the new neck, which they didn't do in this case.

I don't think it will get you anywhere trying to convince these people that what they have is not an entirely original '60s Guild Artist Award. If it would be cheap I would say: "Go for it!" but in this case my advise would be: "Stay Away!"

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[hideglue]

If the factory put on one of one style tuner and five of another, why would there be "old" holes?

I highly doubt the mismatched tuners are factory and they most certainly wouldn't have left the "old holes" so plainly visible. I can't say I haven't seen flubs on lower end guitars but as Walter states...it an Artist Award!
There is an AA from the mid-Nineties with the back of the headstock painted black (before Guild/Benedetto) to "hide" a similar error.

 

[The Guilds of Grot]

Hans, as always thanks for the great info.

Not really interested in buying the guitar, just being a bit of a LTG Guild Mountie!

 

[fronobulax]

Thanks. I wasn't thinking "top of the line" when I asked the question and it does seem pretty easy to use paint to cover holes if they were drilled for one tuner and then another was used in the factory. And of course the suspicion that it is not the original neck...

 

[Smiert Spionam]

There are a few other things that bother me but some of these can be explained.

Do tell!

Hello Grot,

Well, let's stick to the one thing that really bothers me:

The neck is not a '60s neck. Without holding the guitar in my hands it's hard to say what exactly did happen to that guitar but from the photos I would say it's a '70s neck on a body from the '60s.
I can't tell you exactly when the body was made but I would guess somewhere around 1963/1964.

The neck has all the features of a 'later than the sixties' Artist Award neck, the most obvious being:
Neck lamination, fingerboard inlays, fingerboard binding, headstock binding, headstock inlay plaque, truss rod cover etc. etc.

Now it is always possible that this was a factory repair ( it's not that easy to find an Artist Award neck) but on most of the factory repairs the serial number would be copied onto the new neck, which they didn't do in this case.

I don't think it will get you anywhere trying to convince these people that what they have is not an entirely original '60s Guild Artist Award. If it would be cheap I would say: "Go for it!" but in this case my advise would be: "Stay Away!"

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

Thanks, Hans -- very interesting info.

This is exactly the kind of ambiguity that crops up in this seller's auctions. They also don't respond well at all to questions.

They use shill bidders and misidentify guitars, hoping for a buyer who doesn't know better. Eventually, they find one. In the meantime, they allow returns, but their high shipping prices support the overhead/hassle of relisting.

 

[jackb]

Also, is that 4 inch crack extending from both sides of the jackplate original or aftermarket?! :wink: