NGD: Hoyer 50603

[mavuser]

I have a Yamaha PG-1 preamp that belonged to the guitar player from Kool and the Gang. I don’t have damning evidence but the dude I bought it from lived in NYC and apparently got it from one of the roadies.

Tom Jacobs (Fixit on this forum) is pretty tight with Kool and the Gang. Doubt the guys would remember a pre amp sold off by a roadie, but you could try sending him a photo

 

[Rambozo96]

Tom Jacobs (Fixit on this forum) is pretty tight with Kool and the Gang. Doubt the guys would remember a pre amp sold off by a roadie, but you could try sending him a photo

I may shoot a message and see what he says. I think it’s weird it has no markings to link it to the band but I heard some bands didn’t stencil their name on gear because it would probably encourage theft

 

[DrumBob]

Wouldn’t surprise me that it’s a very well made guitar. We are talking with of world experience and build here. Wasn’t this the Hoyer that’s been said to have inspired the S-300? That would beg the question how on earth did one of these end up in the states for a designer at Guild to have been inspired by it?

That is the Hoyer guitar Guild used to design the S series electrics. This is what Neil Lilien said to me: "The S series guitars were copied from a German guitar called Hoyer that wasn't sold here. We took their basic design and changed the cutaways. Don't tell anyone about this."

At the time, I didn't tell anyone, but that was 1980, and now, I can tell the cyber world that once again, Guild designers were copyists when it came to electric guitars during the Avnet years.

 

[Rambozo96]

That is the Hoyer guitar Guild used to design the S series electrics. This is what Neil Lilien said to me: "The S series guitars were copied from a German guitar called Hoyer that wasn't sold here. We took their basic design and changed the cutaways. Don't tell anyone about this."

At the time, I didn't tell anyone, but that was 1980, and now, I can tell the cyber world that once again, Guild designers were copyists when it came to electric guitars during the Avnet years.

Very interesting story. I think even if Hoyer was tipped off or the general public knew I believe there’s enough change in design for Guild to win in a potential lawsuit even though it probably wouldn’t be good for public image. But you can only make guitars in so many shapes really.

 

[lungimsam]

OP’s right to use the term “NGD” is hereby revoked.
Should be “AGD” from now on (another guitar day).

 

[Odriv]

Hi guys

these are pics of the serial number and the electronics of my Hoyer. Sorry it took so long!

if you ever get hold of original humbuckers for it, let me know.

 

[SFIV1967]

Thanks for the pictures! Those green 22nF capacitors were made by "Ernst Roederstein Spezialfabrik für Kondensatoren GmbH" in Germany. Roederstein is now owned by Vishay who still makes them. They are Metallized Polyester Film Capacitors of MKT type.
Those tiny potentiometers were made by Preh in Germany and are no longer available.
The issue with those PCBs is that the volume potentiometers are connected "backwards". Means the highs completely disappear when you turn down the volume. Also they are 250kohms linear, I know of people who exchanged them to 500kohms logarithmic and connected them forward. That improved the sound significantly.

Ralf