NGD 1977 Guild CE-100-D

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Congrats! That is a thing of beauty, the burst is perfect with a warm deep luster from what I can see. I’d love to hear a sound bite of it’s tone vibrato effect some time.
 

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I’d love to hear a sound bite of it’s tone vibrato effect some time.

+1. Or even a video! I still don't completely get it. Sounds like "technique" to me, not the guitar, but I'm ready to be corrected!

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I once had the chance to try out a custom made LP Jr style guitar that happened to have no truss rod at all. The luthier felt that any kind of truss rod affected the sound of the guitar. (Probably true, but for better or worse or...?) Anyway, knowing there was no truss rod I had to try some 'neck-shake' vibrato. It seemed to me to much more pronounced than other guitars, but it could easily have been confirmation bias.

So, just out of curiosity, I wonder if your truss rod is loose?

1) i like my les paul jrs w truss rods

2) Truss rod is tight on CE-100D. and considering i got the guitar from Tom Jacobs, the chances of it being loose would be about the equivalent chance of getting attacked by a polar bear and a regular bear in the same day...and both of them also washing your car.

The neck is on the slimmer side, and the body is a huge hollow box. sometimes i just shake the neck back and forth like u say. i never press on the upper bout of the body. a much lighter shake actually is the trick to it. pressing on the body is going for a slightly different effect imo. i never do that
 

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2) Truss rod is tight on CE-100D. and considering i got the guitar from Tom Jacobs, the chances of it being loose would be about the equivalent chance of getting attacked by a polar bear and a regular bear in the same day...and both of them also washing your car.

How about a Pooh wash?

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Beautiful guitar! I had an exact same guitar years ago...could have been a twin! I remember the unusual multi piece neck of that era as I think mine was a '79.
The Westerly models are built so much more rugged than the Hoboken models! Very thick laminate top compared to the Hoboken guitars.
Love the Tobacco burst color and sharp Venetian cutaway style. Was always a Steve Howe and his 175 fan.

Good choice!
 

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Ah, thanks for the clips! As I said above, a "technique". I've seen clips of John McLaughlin grab the headstock with his right hand to do it. I'm sure the the big hollow body of the CE-100 helps amplify that quite a bit.

I must admit that holding the body still and bending the neck would make me a little nervous...

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So you've tried them with and without?

only with...seems to fill all of my expectations and curiosities on the LPJ...but to each their own, of course

Yeah, I get that. OTOH, if you believe that the neck is important to the sound of a solidbody electric (I do) then it's hard to argue that a truss rod has no affect. Again, I'm not say they sound better with or without, but I'm pretty sure they would sound different, all else being equal.

Moreover, if a neck needs seasonal tweaking of the truss rod to stay flat then it's probably because the wood changes length with temperature and humidity while the truss rod doesn't. Conclusion: it's at least plausible that a neck that needs seasonal tweaking of the truss to stay flat would stay flat year 'round if it didn't have a truss rod to begin with.

Building a neck without a truss rod is a challenge because it requires a fixture that simulates the tension of the strings while leveling the fingerboard itself and then the frets. But, I do believe that if it's done well, and stable wood is used, it can work.
 
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