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micmac

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I discovered GUILD's guitar though their GAD' ones flooding guitarshop in my country. Very nice guitars, big sound , all solids woods but something was annoying me: my feeling is they're too light, have maybe too much renonance, little lack of definition and lack of medium range. For instance, GAD 40C is lovely but it gives a bad impression of brittleness to me.
GAD JF30 is the only model which convinced me. I immediately smelled myself more reassured with this guitar: better rigidity, more subtle sonority and much more definition and in particular the treble range.
But this JF30 is definitely more expensive than the other GAD. This price - let us say $900 -, one can find here very good American or Japanese guitars in second hands.
A friend advised me to test "true" american Guild before if required investing in a chinese JF30. I could test 2 new Guilds models in a shop: D55 and F50R. And then...brothers, I saw the light. :D :D :D :D
I could compared these 2 Guilds with Gibson J45, SJ200, Taylor GS, Martin HD28 and so on... With my ears, my hands and my eyes, D55 is incontestably the best guitar I played in this store. F50 Rosewwod is an excellent guitar also, but too near to D55 and with a sound when same a little less interesting with my taste. It's a pity that there was not Mapple arched back F50, because I think that would have been the occasion to taste the "real" Guild jumbo sound.
Useless to specify that me budget does not enable me to invest more than $2500 in a guitar. I am thus turned over to test this GAD JF30 to see how I felt it after having had D55 between the hands. It is undeniable that these 2 guitars do not play in the same world. The sound of GAD JF30 has much less dynamic, is less detailed, less resonance, less richness in mediums, less subtlety in the basses, less brightnesses in the treble. It is thus obvious that these GADs are not guitars which can compete with guitars 2 times more expensive... in the Guild mark in any case. But I am not an enough expert for saying if the GAD are with the height of what one can await from Guild of level entry.

4 days ago, I noticesed that some US reseallers sells NOS white labelled Corona JF30

At comparable price, I suppose you would you prefer to buy the Corona JF30 than the Chinese JF30.
But what do you think about paying $300 more to buy a NOS corona you never had in your arms ?


Thank for your advises

Please apologize my level 3 english
Greetings from Paris, France.
 
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you will probably get varying opinions on corona built Guilds here, but my experience with them was solely positive. they sounded great and played well.

there was one winter in particular that was unusually cold in the US, and many of the guitars were returned for finish checking during shipment, and were subsequently 'blown out' by retailers.

understanding that each guitar (especially acoustics) needs to be held and played before bought, i'd have little reservation about putting an extra $300 in for a US made. it sounds like quite a deal. if nothing else, the resale value would be way better

...not that anyone should ever sell their Guild!

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Thanks for your comments katahdin,
Well, I'm sure I will not buy the GAD one: I don't want to find myself looking to sell it in several months...
Nevertheless, I think NOS JF30 are a little overprised by on-line resselllers.
I think I will wait until to find a good second hand.

Somebody here ? :?
 

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Hey micmac, welcome. Another user here Victor Denance is from France, perhaps he can share some insight with you. I believe he has a D-55 and I think a Starfire. He seems very knowledgeable and might be a good help to you.

Find him in the members list and send him a PM.

Best of luck, oh and your English is far superior to my French. :oops:
 

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Quick look at the first one, not sure of the year, you want to get the serial #. The description is cut and paste but that's nothing new. They have a decent feedback 98.9% for over 1800 sales, you wont please them all I guess and their shipping rate to Europe doesn't look too high to me, and they do say that they pack well.

Second one, TI might indicate Tacoma built, others here will know definately more than me. Need to ask a few more questions of course, but I'm a sucker for a burst.

You want to talk with West R Lee here, he seems to be able to sniff out some great guitars, and the more "gaudy" the better.
:p
 

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Micmac,

A warm welcome to you. That JF30 looks beautiful to me. And if that color is rare, that guitar might be worth a lot some day.

A Corona can be as good as the others. It's just that a higher percentage of Coronas had defects. If you buy one from a long ways from Paris and don't like it and send it back, you have to pay the shipping both ways. It's always better to play a guitar first. But of the guitar is a long ways away, you can also rely on somebody else to inspect it and play it and tell you what he thinks. Hans Moust is in Holland, which I guess is only about a three-hour train ride from Paris.

Erik Mongrain! Boulou and Elios Ferre! Pierre Bensusan!
 

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You changed your Avatar! Dadgummit, we were getting ready to vote on how many thought you looked like Rutger.

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micmac said:
And so what do you boy think about this
JF " pumpkin" 30 :D

I like it better than this pumpkin.
pumpkin_2Dbutt_2D574.jpg


Sorry folks
 

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[IMG:450:281]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/Graham_61/Misc/pumpkin_2Dbutt_2D574.jpg[/img]

:D :D Congratulations Graham !
And now we need to see here the nose of Mister West :D :D
 

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Victor Denance said:
"TNO" stands for Tennessee Orange
Yeap!
Going through the Harmony-Central, I came across the JF-30 TNO reviews which was a Tenessee Orange limited run of the JF-30 made in Westerly. Both reviews (apparently there were only 10 of these made) reference the bridge lifting - 1 in store, and 1 after a few months of ownership.
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
Micmac,

A warm welcome to you. That JF30 looks beautiful to me. And if that color is rare, that guitar might be worth a lot some day.

A Corona can be as good as the others. It's just that a higher percentage of Coronas had defects. If you buy one from a long ways from Paris and don't like it and send it back, you have to pay the shipping both ways. It's always better to play a guitar first. But of the guitar is a long ways away, you can also rely on somebody else to inspect it and play it and tell you what he thinks. Hans Moust is in Holland, which I guess is only about a three-hour train ride from Paris.

Erik Mongrain! Boulou and Elios Ferre! Pierre Bensusan!

Thank you Darryl :)
I think most of sellers refuse a possibility of return when shipping outside the USA.
Yes : Holland is less than 3 hours from Paris. I will ask to Hans Moust if I can take a beer with him and eventually if I it can disencumber it of one of his guitars. I am sure that it needs to make place in its attic :D
 
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