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I was reading an old thread about Orpheums on the AG forum, originally it was about the old Orpheums, but morphed to the Guilds. One poster was wondering about the use of the term Custom Shop for them, so I'm wondering how much of the work on the Orphs was custom. I don't remember much about them from the tours, but my years of chemo played havoc with my memory. My guess is that the main parts were CNC machined just as the rest of the line. However, looking at mine, it appears to have had more personal attention. Could just be pride of ownership, though! Anybody have any input?
 

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My recollection, tempered by age and alcohol is that the New Hartford Custom Shop was a designation that wasn't really formal until Ren showed up and the 60th was produced. As I recall Custom Shop instruments were made on the same production line using the same equipment. There may have been extra attention paid to them - I have a vague recollection of someone working on the fret board of a 60th commenting that he was being extra careful because it was as special, limited instrument. I think rosettes were done by hand on all Guilds and that would be more opportunity for special attention to detail.

I find "custom shop" is one of those terms that everyone thinks they can define but the truth is that it can't really be done without specifying a manufacturer, factory and time period. For example, some "custom shops" assembled an instrument to specifications of a player's choosing. Others made an instrument using "off the shelf" parts that were fitted, and perhaps reworked by hand. Guild's New Hartford Custom Shop had Ren involved in the design, and perhaps even in the selection of wood and modifications to "standard" parts, but Custom Shop instruments were still made by the same people, on the same production line, as regular production instruments. That said, since it is a mix of hand and machine work, I would expect people were allowed to take a little more time on the hand work to ensure that it was the best that they could do.
 

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There were some special things done, application of hide glue for instance, tap tuning the wood and so on.
Look at this video again:



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There were some special things done, application of hide glue for instance, tap tuning the wood and so on.
Look at this video again:



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You mention hide glue. Were all the custom shop guitars made with hide glue?

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You mention hide glue. Were all the custom shop guitars made with hide glue?
I believe even the Fender Custom Shop guitars from New Hartford were done with Titebond, not hot hideglue. As Sandy said, only the Guild Orpheums got the hot hideglue construction. American Patriarch, Custom Star, 60th anniversary were all Titebond (or Titebond II for the neck set) as far as I remember.

Here's a Fender one:

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Also New Hartford did not have original Titebond bottles on the tables, all glues were in little bottles with a label like this which indicates they bought the glue in larger containers and re-filled it in their smaller bottles.

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Here's such example of the special glue they used to soften the ABS rosettes:

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^ I think that's right, Ralf. Although we LTGers weren't 100% clued in between the fall of 2013 and closure mid-2014. E.g., I wonder if hideglue was used (by Ren) for the Doyle Dykes signatures... I don't have any reason to suspect that, but so much of those were custom that I would imagine it's possible (if Doyle asked for it, maybe??). Anyway, yeah, as far as I know, it was only the Orpheums (Orphea??).
 
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