New Gear Purchased - I might be arrested

goodry

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I had been going back and forth with a very nice guy down in austin about his guild guitar - I'd send him a message, it would take him 2, 3, 5 days to respond... ill save yall the drawn out emotional rollercoaster...

I bought his guitar tonight - 2012 Guild D-50CE STD - $790 shipped.

I look across the internet and it seems like I stole this guitar. The only major problem is it has a Dtar pickup system and he says something is wrong with that. I plug in once every about 9 months so this isnt a problem.

I typed the serial # into the guild serial # database machine and it came out that it was made october 2012 in New Hartford, CT.

Am I missing something ? Did I get a normal deal and I just feel like I just stole something and my arrest is imminent ?

Also, There is conflicting reports that for that year, they did away with the adirondack bracing.. I cant find anything concise. Guild site says it is 'red spruce' but others say it is not.. and it does not have an ebony fretboard but a rosewood one - so much conflicting info.

Can anybody on the board chime in with any additional knowledge or if you have one, let me know what you think?

Thanks!

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I will say that is a very very good price. One on craigslist near me for $1950 and yours looks just as nice or nicer. Bet the Dtar pup will be an easy fix. Congratulations!
Update:. Just checked and price dropped to $1500 on one near me.
 
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I will say that is a very very good price. One on craigslist near me for $1950 and yours looks just as nice or nicer. Bet the Dtar pup will be an easy fix. Congratulations!


haha i should have known you were up, i was going to message you but I didnt want to wake ya.

This was my first choice before this superb human showed me the 2011 D-50 Bluegrass.


I can hear my words ringing in my head last week talking to my girlfriend "Well, I think that about does it for purchasing guitars for a long while......." The price was just too good to pass up. It's going to be fun to A\B them next to eachother.
 

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That's a nice Guild model. I own one as well. I'd say anything under $1k is a good deal. A paid a couple hundred more than you did and still felt I got a fair deal.

Congrats!!!!
 

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That's a nice Guild model. I own one as well. I'd say anything under $1k is a good deal. A paid a couple hundred more than you did and still felt I got a fair deal.

Congrats!!!!


Does yours have the rosewood fingerboard or the ebony?

How much difference does ebony vs rosewood make in as a fingerboard?
 

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Congrats!
The Guilds specs from NH always said Rosewood Fingerboard and Scalloped Red Spruce bracing. Where did you read about an ebony fingerboard on that model from NH? And also not sure where you got the info regarding change in bracing from, I can't remember that NH downgraded the model away from red spruce bracing.

This was the 2011 press release at NAMM when the model was introduced:
https://www.namm.org/files/presskits/Guild 2011 Winter Products NR.pdf

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Ralf
 
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This is where I got it from:
Guild D-50CE STD

If you dont feel like going to the site, this is the text

"
Dates of manufacture:
2003
2011 to 2012

The Guild D-50CE is a single cutaway electro-acoustic version of Guild's famous D-50 dreadnought. Available (initally) in 2003 only, it had an ebony fingerboard & bridge and Chesterfield headstock logo. These original models had Fishman PrefixPRO Blend preamp system including a Fishman Acoustic Matrix under the saddle pickup with a miniature electret condenser microphone mounted on the underside of the preamp chassis. Given the date these 2003 models were probably made in Corona. Tuners were chrome Grovers.
The Guild D-50CE was reissued in 2011-2012 with some design changes: a rosewood fingerboard & bridge, different headstock (with no Chesterfield logo) and D-Tar Wave-Length End Pin Mounted Preamp with Volume and Tone Module, tuners were changed to Gotohs."
 

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Does yours have the rosewood fingerboard or the ebony?

How much difference does ebony vs rosewood make in as a fingerboard?

Rosewood. Some will say you get a different feel with an Ebony vs. RW fingerboard and they may be right. Not for me though. Either/or is fine with me. .
 

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Goodry,

Good price, Congrats.

The US-built Guilds continue to be great values, and I think it's still a buyer's market for Guilds in general. Thankfully, we slide under the radar a lot.

That's a lovely guitar. NH did an awesome job with the Standard series and it's unfortunate that it didn't get to live past 2014. Sigh. You got top-notch materials for a (relatively) bargain-basement prices. They were screaming values new as well, especially for what you were getting.

I think you're wrong about any change regarding bracing. They were using almost exclusively (perhaps totally exclusively) red spruce bracing for everything back in NH. I don't know if that's currently true since the transition to CMG - Oxnard.

The only major spec change that I know which occurred with Standard series models is that they went from full gloss bodies and satin necks to some amount of satin on the body (not sure how much). You see, the Standard series was New Hartford's proving ground for some new finishing techniques -- mostly using different pore fillers -- under the NCL finish.

Good luck with that beauty!
 

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This is where I got it from: Guild D-50CE STD
Ah, I see. But that is not an official Guild site and there are definitely many errors on that site for many of the guitar models shown. As you see they mix up versions from different years and factories into one single spec, that is dangerous...But they also clearly say that the 2011 introduced New Hartford version came with Rosewood fingerboard. So there they are correct.
Ralf
 

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I could be wrong, but I don't think any Standard series instruments had ebony fingerboards. I'm totally talking out my patootie with this, but it sounds right. :)
 

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Rosewood. Some will say you get a different feel with an Ebony vs. RW fingerboard and they may be right. Not for me though. Either/or is fine with me. .
I'll ad to Richards comment if I may .
Ebony will ad a ease of movement for bends and slides .
Also Ebony will ad a bit more brightness to the tone of the guitar and Rosewood will add a bit more warmth. 🙂

Great deal on the guitar and congrats .
 

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Congratulations! That is a fine guitar. Big fan of NH especially the standards. Excellent value on the used market. You got a very good deal but this model does not demand very high prices. Definitely a hidden gem.

 

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The bottom line is that you are happy. Very, very happy. :)
 

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I think you paid well.

You have gotten comments about the specs but a couple of things to keep in mind. The specs for the New Hartford Standard series and Traditional series were different and there is a lot of misinformation from folks who didn't make the distinction while they were doing their research and just assumed the first thing they found applied to their guitars. The specs for the Traditional (or similar models from NH that received neither the Traditional or Standard designation) are often mistakenly believed to be the same specs as older instruments, such as those from Westerly. Similarly the specs of Oxnard made instruments have been attached to NH production. Bottom line is that your best chance of getting accurate specs is to know the year and factory and find the relevant catalog. Then you will be introduced to the Wonderful World of Guild Catalogs where there are catalog specs for instruments that were never build and existing instruments that match no known catalog. Luckily that is rarely the case for NH instruments and catalogs once you confirm you are dealing with regular production.
 

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I have a NH D50CE STD, with the D-tar. The D-tar was not working when I got it, (dead battery). I changed the battery and it started to quack, (not working). The next day I plugged it in , and it was sounding fine. Never had a problem with it again. I needed a cutaway, I got a cutaway.

Ralph
 

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I have 3 soon to be 4 (unless the PO lost it) NH models. You would be very hard pressed to find a better guitar anywhere by any maker for what you paid for that D50. And for the record I love their cutaways and Dtar system. Both a bonus in my mind.
 
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